Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Constantine Alexander-Goulandris


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Xavexgoem (talk) 16:55, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Constantine Alexander-Goulandris

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This article fails to meet notability guidelines for biographies. It contains no reliable sources or in-line citations. The sources provided are either irrelevant or make no mention of the subject. Searching Google Books came back with no reliable sources (one hit- a book that is a collection of Wikipedia articles). Google News archive search came back with three articles, none from reliable sources, and all of which cite the Wikipedia page as their source of information. Original author requested the article be taken down multiple times to allow time to “fact-check” and “confirm its complete accuracy,” however it remained with no additional reliable sources being added. Numerous other editors have asserted that this person is fictional. Robfrederick (talk) 19:32, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment: There is passing mention of him in this Wall St. Journal blog entry and in this Luxist entry. So if it's a hoax, they were taken in. Even if he does exist, I'm not convinced that this is enough RS coverage to warrant an article, but I'll admit to not being an expert. Meelar (talk) 22:06, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
 * The non-WP:RS Luxist says he's the billionaire buyer, the WSJ blog cites them while regurgitating this non-fact, then Luxist admits they were wrong. WSJ does not bother to correct their blog entry--it's just a blog, after all, I guess. This is the type of sourcing we're dealing with here, when there is sourcing at all. --Hobbes Goodyear (talk) 02:38, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
 * As I said, I'm not making a claim one way or the other about the article--that's why I made a comment instead of a !vote. But it does cast some doubt on the alleged non-existence of the article subject, and the claim that "The sources provided are either irrelevant or make no mention of the subject" that was made in the nomination. Meelar (talk) 17:33, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
 * The Luxist article claims its “source” is a “well-connected Luxist follower” and then cites this Wikipedia entry for its additional information on Goulandris. This hardly qualifies as reliable and as far as my research has shown seems to be the only “proof” of his existence on the internet. Robfrederick (talk) 21:00, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 01:27, 27 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete. Many grand claims, mostly unsourced, or else poorly sourced from gossip pages. Substantial coverage from WP:RS sources is sorely lacking. Fails WP:GNG, and could well violate WP:NOTPROMOTION. --Hobbes Goodyear (talk) 02:38, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Bryce  ( talk  &#124;  contribs ) 01:47, 3 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Repurpose the article goes to some length to explain why there is not sufficient information--but his companies are probably notable, and this could redirect to articles on them.  DGG ( talk ) 02:01, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * There are no pages for either of the companies to be redirected to. No reliable sources could be found that verify either of the companies this page claims he owns even exist. There was a WP on one of these companies, Victory Carriers, which was created by the same user that created this page, however it was deleted “based on lack of reliable third-party sources, and findings of invalid/missourced original information.” Within the deletion discussion for that article the nominator also asserted that he thought Alexander- Goulandris was a WP:HOAX. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robfrederick (talk • contribs) 15:48, 8 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment. I have flagged this article as a possible hoax (in whole or part). See discussion on Talk:Constantine_Alexander-Goulandris. --Hobbes Goodyear (talk) 04:49, 8 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete as hoax. There is absolutely no reliable source. The whole history of this article looks extremely fishy, and it's a pity we did not delete it when the author asked us to. The only mention of its subject in the references is a Wall Street Journal blog, which quotes "Luxist", whose sources are "A well-connected Luxist follower" who is immediately contradicted by "an insider." With no more than anonymous gossip to go on, the article fails WP:V, and careful research reported on the talk page has failed to find confirmation of anything it says, including the companies.


 * Ghits are almost all based on this article, or on the Luxist gossip, but among them I find this, according to which he is married to Susanne Livanos de Kasa-Hunyady. A year ago we had a string of Kasa-Hunyady hoax articles, and that confirms my view that this is a hoax rather than just unsourced BLP. JohnCD (talk) 20:34, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.