Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Contemporary electronic music


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Talk about 'merging' can, of course, still occur. Eddie891 Talk Work 18:05, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Contemporary electronic music

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replication of existing content, we already have articles on electronic music, electronic dance music, and 'electronica'.... unnecessary article on a niche term that describes precisely nothing. Acousmana (talk) 13:30, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Acousmana (talk) 13:30, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete. It's an essay, so there's no point in merging. Electronic music and the other articles the nom points out cover it. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 14:26, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Electronica was boldly moved to Contemporary electronic music. I moved it back. – wbm1058 (talk) 17:16, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Admin note. If a consensus forms to delete this; please move it to Electronica (music) without leaving a redirect, in order to free up the page history at the title, and then move Electronica (disambiguation) to the base title. Thanks, wbm1058 (talk) 17:21, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep It's a well-known genre. If the quality of the article or its sourcing is at question, that can be addressed by improving it as the topic itself is notable. Walter Görlitz (talk) 22:05, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
 * This was the 'electronica' article, until a page move renamed it to the above. Can you give a definition of "contemporary electronic music"? Do you mean in the sense of institutional/academic electroacoustic music, or are you intending it to be an umbrella term for so-called vernacular electronic music? Acousmana (talk) 22:45, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I see that some in the genre we call "electronica" prefer "contemporary electronic music", but a change in title is different than a deletion discussion. I'm opposed to deletion of electronica, which is where the AfD template is currently located. made the move. I don't really understand why though, but this is now a very large mess. Walter Görlitz (talk) 23:11, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
 * it's a mess alright, i proposed the deletion before seeing what exactly had happened with page moves/redirects etc., electronica article certainly has issues, needs updating, but agree that deletion is unnecessary.Acousmana (talk) 10:23, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Aasim 17:47, 25 August 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Article history is quite a mess. I entered this AfD with some skepticism for the "contemporary electronic music" title, but see now that it's just "electronica". I don't think there's a sufficiently clear distinction between "electronica" and "electronic dance music" sufficient to have two articles here, but certainly no need to delete. Neither is quite a genre as much as an umbrella term to make it easy to refer to a bunch of genres. The question is how best to Merge them together, probably under the latter title, with some give/take with electronic music, too. That's best handled on the article talk pages, though. &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 00:00, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
 * it is complicated slightly by regional differences in the usage history of the word "electronica," before it was adopted by the US record industry in the mid 90s, it was used - primarily in the UK - to describe electronic music that would later be labelled IDM. This was never fleshed out properly in the electronica article but there are sources available hato could be cited. Acousmana (talk) 18:02, 26 August 2020 (UTC) On second thoughts, a redirect to electronic dance music probably the simplest thing at this point. Acousmana (talk) 18:27, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Except no one calls it "electronic dance music". They do call it "contemporary electronic music" though. Walter Görlitz (talk) 03:41, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
 * OK, so we need usable musicological sources that very clearly outline the differences between electronic music, electronica, electronic dance music, and contemporary electronic music. Fan discourse, unless cited by WP:RS, doesn't solve the problem. Acousmana (talk) 21:51, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 22:19, 5 September 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: final relist. Hopefully some more !votes will clear up what to do with the pages.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Eddie891 Talk Work 00:31, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Electronica is distinct from electronic music in that the former is a music genre while the latter is a mode of music production. A clear conceptual distinction is that most modern music incorporates electronic music, but that act does not make a piece of music a form of electronica. The current article content needs to be improved, but the underlying concept is notable. Also note that electronica is distinct from EDM in that electronica incorporates non-dance oriented forms. SFB 11:59, 16 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep  ili (talk) 10:40, 21 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep - I agree with Sillyfolkboy - electronica can sometimes mean nearly a wide variety of genres not necessarily made for dance - therefore is distinct from EDMMalmsimp (talk) 07:28, 22 September 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.