Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Controversy over Joe Biden's competence


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. ✗ plicit  13:48, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

Controversy over Joe Biden's competence

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 * This looks like a fork because much of this stuff is not being allowed in his main article. Slatersteven (talk) 08:58, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
 * This looks like a fork because much of this stuff is not being allowed in his main article. Slatersteven (talk) 08:58, 2 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politics and United States of America.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 09:15, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment Very one-sided discussion, hard to keep NPOV when all the sources are basically an attack. If this isn't "allowed" in the main article, I can't see it being notable. Oaktree b (talk) 13:04, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Quick Delete – If it looks like a fork and walks like a fork…. This is entirely an attack page reeking with ageism. And how is one of Trump’s twelve, insulting nicknames for Biden informative? O3000, Ret. (talk) 13:26, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Partisan narratives and criticsm, even when posed as "questions" or "disagreements" are not a controversy. I do not see RS narratives about any such controversy. This is a POV fork at best. SPECIFICO talk 17:23, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete - people discussing his mental health is a controversy based on what? This is pushing a narrative just in title alone. Topic isn't notable subject. WikiVirusC (talk) 18:19, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete - Last time I checked. Section 4 of the 25th amendment has never been invoked, since President Biden took office. GoodDay (talk) 03:27, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Public image of Joe Biden. I don't think that sources having a partisan leaning prevents an article per se: criticism of Donald Trump mostly comes from libs, criticism of Barack Obama mostly comes from cons, et cetera, and we cover these things fine. But this article is not something that really inspires confidence. Note that it seems to have been drastically shortened since the opening of this AfD (and turned into something of a strange spectacle), but even before that, it wasn't anything to write home about. He says stupid things? He's old? And some people think he's a jackass? Well, politicians have tendencies towards all of these things, but we don't have articles about it every time they do (we would hardly have space for anything else). Note that Criticism of Donald Trump and Criticism of Barack Obama are both redirects. Those with more time on their hands than I have can check out Special:PrefixIndex/Criticism of and Special:PrefixIndex/Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Criticism of for other examples.  jp×g 07:09, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete. Essay.  If it wasn’t already here, I’d mark it for CSD. BostonMensa (talk) 17:17, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete I feel like this should be a sub-section on the main page article. Unless much more compelling WP:RS is published. Eruditess (talk) 21:40, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete and maybe redirect to the public image article. The health of public figures is a legitimate topic insofar it affects their public image and speculation is not presented as fact. See, for example, how the Reagan page treats the question of Alzheimer's onset. Biden's health is discussed elsewhere and does not seem to be causing any issues with article length. The title of this article extends its scope beyond that, and I see no way that it could be developed in accordance with NPOV any more than a similarly titled article about Trump, Bush or Dan Quayle. 67.180.143.89 (talk) 16:55, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:FORK, WP:ESSAY, WP:TNT, and WP:SOAP. A coordinated attack on a person does not make it true or notable. This is essentially a political hit essay. Potentially WP:SALT. Bearian (talk) 17:31, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: absurd content fork/essay. Save it for the podcasts, dudes. Neutralitytalk 18:01, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

This is clearly a snow close now. Slatersteven (talk) 11:07, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Tomorrow will be 7 days, if wasn't speedy deleted already it probably gonna be another day. SNOWs usually for keeps. WikiVirusC (talk) 12:06, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Snow closes are for any situation where the outcome is undeniable, keep or delete. Zaathras (talk) 23:29, 8 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete - This is basically a Rumble, TruthSocial talking point. Zaathras (talk) 23:29, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete or merge - any relevant "concerns" covered in reliable sources can be duly covered at Public image of Joe Biden and other related articles.  Iamreallygoodatcheckers<b style="color: #000000;"> talk</b> 23:54, 8 May 2023 (UTC)


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