Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Convergence (telecommunications)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep per near-unanimity of respondents (non-admin closure). AfD is not cleanup, the content is not a copyvio, and the topic is notable as demonstrated by the arguments here. Skomorokh 00:24, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Convergence (telecommunications)

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Procedural; was tagged for prod but I don't think this obviously should be deleted. I'm putting it on AfD to solicit comments from anyone that might be more knowledgeable. The way, the truth, and the light (talk) 12:05, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. I'd have left the prod on this: it's speedily deletable.  Some of the text seems to be be a copyright violation. In any case, it's  patent nonsense, proposing a glib, meaningless plan to Make Money Fast in communications.  It's also stealth spam, and the only references given are to an organization promoting this non-notable neologism. - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 14:07, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * No vote on the current article, but this "neologism" has been the coming Next Big ThingTM in the telecoms industry since the late 1990s. It set off a telecoms gold rush that coincided with the Dot-Com bubble. There's plenty of WP:RS material available if someone wants to write a legitimate article. • Gene93k (talk) 15:25, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep (and cleanup, possibly stubify) Convergence in terms of the telecom industry is an extremely notable topic. Actually, now that I read it, Gene93k's comment put it rather well.  I admit I haven't investigated the claims of copywrite violations, obviously any instances should be fixed, likewise with anything that sounds like a get rich quick scheme (That didn't jump out at me when looking over the article).  The content does not appear to be nonsense (I could be wrong), and the topic certainly isn't.  I'll do some invistigating on the copyvio and article history and see what I can do to help. -Verdatum (talk) 16:32, 24 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep but needs sourcing and POV checking. This is definitely a big buzzword, defining its meaning probably depends on who's saying it, though. --Dhartung | Talk 18:26, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It seems to me to be a mix of Horizontal integration and some Vertical integration. Phlegm Rooster (talk) 20:02, 24 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep (and expand). I extensively contributed to this article. I work within the telecommunications sector, for one of the largest mobile operators in the world (not mentioned in the article). I can ensure you that convergence is one the hottest topics in the market. I chose to put some of the knowledge gained from experience into this, but unfortunately I haven't had the time to expand the article to the extent and quality I wish it had (yet). I have not breached copyright in any way shape or form. I am hoping other people who work in this business will have the opportunity to contribute to this. (Edtealdi (talk) 19:44, 25 April 2008 (UTC))


 * Keep - this is an extremely important issue in the telecommunications industry and for technology in general. It affects everyone.  This was a buzzword in the 1990s, now it's a fact of life.  The article should be kept and improved.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.200.52.25 (talk) 19:28, 26 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep. Definitely not patent nonsense, as I get the sense of this and would like to read more.  Arun Sarin (Vodafone CEO) was on Sky News in the UK talking about this subject just 2 weeks ago.  Definitely not a meaningless plan to Make Money Fast either - just think about the effect of Talk Talk's free broadband offer in ~2006 in the UK market.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.153.224.153 (talk) 20:13, 27 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep (and continue to expand). Telco convergence will be a dominant feature of this year's TM_Forum and is now a major module for a telco related MSc at University_College_London .  References to the TM_Forum are not a copyright violation as one of the goals of the TMF is the promotion of a common vocabulary for the benefit of all telco users. (85.205.248.229 (talk) 10:51, 28 April 2008 (UTC))


 * Keep. This is an important topic, if not easy one to write. The article is unfortunately not quite well written. The sourcing is a probably lesser issue. It would be great if we have a featured article on the topic. In any case, the deletion is definitely not a right editorial move. -- Taku (talk) 23:51, 28 April 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.