Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cooper Holmes


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The result was delete--Ymblanter (talk) 07:29, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

Cooper Holmes

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WP:BLP of a collegiate basketball player with no strong claim to passing WP:NBASKETBALL: notability is not granted in that sport until a person makes a professional league, and the strongest claim of "more notable than the norm for the collegiate level" here is that he was the all-time points leader at his own high school (and ranks 14th statewide.) But that's not nearly enough in and of itself to grant him automatic inclusion just because he exists, and the sourcing is nowhere near strong enough to satisfy WP:GNG. Delete, without creation against recreation in the future if he actually makes the big leagues or achieves something that would get him over WP:NCOLLATH for more than just existing as a collegiate-level athlete. Bearcat (talk) 22:16, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete I don't think Mr. Holmes is notable yet, after Googling him – just some mentions in local media as a high school star. On a side note, I am actually a bit surprised WP:NBASKETBALL does not mention NCAA Division I at all, even for players who received All-American honors, the John Wooden award, or the Naismith or similar awards. Perhaps they all pass WP:GNG easily, so there is no need. MisterRandomized (talk) 06:33, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Side-note: I am stupid according to WP:NCOLLATH. MisterRandomized (talk)
 * Second side-note: I should mention that I personally don't believe the high school coverage rises above the level of routine per WP:NHSPHSATH. MisterRandomized (talk) 06:41, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete as by far nothing at all for any minimal independent notability. SwisterTwister   talk  07:37, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Nakon  04:44, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete Even most division I NCAA players are not notable, but division II?John Pack Lambert (talk) 23:00, 5 June 2016 (UTC)


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