Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Copium (Internet Meme)


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The result was redirect to copium. Vanamonde (Talk) 17:14, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

Copium (Internet Meme)

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Reviewed through NPP. Not a notable meme, most RS only mention it in passing. I'm not sure what "Dot Esports" is but the poor quality of this article and the heavily SEO'd title don't inspire confidence in the site's reliability. Spicy (talk) 00:03, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Doesn't meet WP:GNG and fails WP:NWEB. No sources give it WP:SIGCOV. Sources give it passing mentions only. Quaemenelimbus  ( 🗨 here ) ^_^ 00:07, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete As WP:NOTDICT (slang); already exists at copium. Uhai (talk) 00:15, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 00:45, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - Fails notability guidelines, only trivial mentions. ProofRobust  01:03, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - as said, copium exists. Perhaps a soft redirect there may work.  Liliana UwU  (talk / contribs) 02:37, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Weak keep or merge and redirect. This appears to be a prime example of the difficulty of determining internet notability versus traditional notability. This term has huge circulation on the internet and has been the subject of quite a bit of independent commentary and analysis (in addition to the referenced sources, see this article). The current article adds little value beyond the current Wiktionary entry, but it could easily be expanded to include more information on the history and usage of the term. There should really be some kind of metric other than mentions in major publications, because if a term is appearing millions of times on social media, it is verifiably notable even if the documentation of it is lacking in media coverage (although in the case of copium, I think it passes WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV according to existing standards). This is actually just a variant of the emergence of increasingly common use of the word "cope" as a noun, which has spread rapidly in recent years in youth and internet subcultures. Another possibility might be to include this and similar terms (like those mentioned in this article) on another page, maybe Internet Slang or something similar. If this article is kept as a stub, there may very well be more content to add in the coming months and years, however I acknowledge that this may be a case of WP:TOOSOON. Chagropango (talk) 05:33, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Soft redirect to copium or Weak Keep, I was able to find 2 SIGCOV of copium, but not too sure if it can surpass WP:NOTDICT:
 * If an article on the "cope" internet slang existed, that would be the best AtD as it could cover this variant well, but it doesn't so redirecting to Wiktionary is the best option here. Happy to reevaluate an improved article however. Jumpytoo Talk 07:17, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I wrote this article when I found the word "copium" being mentioned again and again in the context of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, admittedly on Twitter. More particular it is often used in the context of the grandstanding of the Russian media claiming they fight a heroic struggle agains evil
 * Example: https://twitter.com/Evaien5/status/1593996710606405634.
 * Example: https://twitter.com/fakedavidmount/status/1568759960682795008
 * Example: https://twitter.com/LunariaTenebris/status/1591562542249377792
 * Better examples can probably be found.
 * Note in particular that due to the importance of this war, the use of the word "copium" will likely be of interest to historians.
 * Meanwhile, Wikipedia mentions copium only in the context of a moth species and an album of the wrapper Keak the Sneak neither of which is very helpful.
 * RogierBrussee (talk)
 * original creator of the page. RogierBrussee (talk) 18:36, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
 * RogierBrussee (talk)
 * original creator of the page. RogierBrussee (talk) 18:36, 19 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete, I had considered making this AfD myself when I saw the page. Sure, it's internet slang that gets used frequently, but it is not notable per Wiki standards.  WP scatter  t/c 02:54, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Soft Redirect to copium: Not enough to pass WP:NWEB with the existing sources indicated above. That said, redirecting to its Wiktionary is the way to go. ASTIG️🙃  (ICE-T • ICE CUBE) 10:00, 22 November 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.