Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cordelia Mendoza


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The result was   delete. T. Canens (talk) 02:39, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Cordelia Mendoza

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Non-notable local businessperson MelanieN (talk) 16:19, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment There are a lot of references - the author has worked hard on this article - but the subject does not qualify as notable IMO. The subject has received a few minor awards (one from the local Business Improvement District, plus one out of many "Readers Choice Awards" from the neighborhood paper). She has been quoted in some articles from Reliable Sources, but they are a one-paragraph quote - they are not ABOUT her. She has done local philanthropy work. All in all she sounds like a good person and a contributor to her community, but not notable enough for an encyclopedia article. --MelanieN (talk) 16:25, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions.  —MelanieN (talk) 16:36, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions.  —MelanieN (talk) 16:36, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. Sorry, but this subject is not notable enough.  JBsupreme  ( talk ) ✄ ✄ ✄	 16:47, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment I don't know how appropriate it is for me to comment, since I wrote the article, but the person, according to articles, has been a merchant in Ocean Beach for 20 years and has been given awards and recognition for the town getting that designation of antiques district. Perhaps that isn't highlighted enough in the article? The Daily Transcript, the legal newspaper of record in San Diego, described her as a pioneer in establishing an antiques district in San Diego. It is a destination, whereas two decades ago it wasn't. Perhaps it wasn't made clear enough in the article. For that, according to the articles, she has been recognized by the California State Legislature, the Small Business Administration of San Diego, the merchants association, local newspapers and a TV station. I put most of those things in the article, but they're spread out. I will work on the article to improve it and include more references to show notability, per Wiki quality and notability standards. Thanks very much. AuthorAuthor (talk) 17:59, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - Successful businesswoman of note to her community, not notable enough outside it. Sometimes hundreds of people per day are given recognition by the state legislature.Minnowtaur (talk) 21:37, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment I am adding to the article & including more than just a businesswoman of note. Her volunteerism is lengthy. I only included some of it, but there's a lot out there.AuthorAuthor (talk) 22:11, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. Extensive sourcing demonstrates that the subject clearly meets the GNG. The discussion here seems to focus on whether she should be notable, which is not really among the deletion criteria. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 16:05, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - looking through the numerous cites, independent coverage is trivial or purely local. Nothing of significance to pass WP:GNG.--70.80.234.196 (talk) 19:57, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment and merits for Keep - I found and have added, since the nomination, verifiable and reliable sources for stories where she is either the only one quoted or featured in the article, since MelanieN stated that was needed when she nominated the article for deletion. Also, Re: 70.80.234.196's reason for "delete," because the sources are "trivial" and "purely local," while that's not a bad thing, it's not exactly accurate. The Daily Transcript, San DIego Union-Tribune, San Diego Magazine, & San Diego News are hardly trivial or purely local (the San Diego Union-Tribune is considered a national newspaper, & San DIego News -- with a bunch of area papers -- is regional), especially being written up in publications that cover the 2nd largest city in the state of California & the 9th largest in the nation (according to Wikipedia). She was included in the Christian Science Monitor as well, also cited in the article, and that too is a national newspaper. Thanks in advance for your time. AuthorAuthor (talk) 21:32, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - Let's take a closer look at those sources. From the San Diego Union-Tribune, two cites: the first is something written by her sister (not independent coverage) about her surgeon who just happened to save her life. The second one "Garden variety: Tours celebrates county's bounty" has no mention of Cordelia Mendoza. So coverage from the San Diego Union-Tribune does not establish notability. San Diego Magazine: first cite, no direct coverage (no mention of her), the second (vol 48, pg 68), trivial coverage. From the Daily Transcript: it's hard to say if the award is notable and/or if this is a press release, anyway, per WP:ANYBIO the award is a local business award and not well-known. San Diego News offers routine coverage of local community events, she's mentioned in your basic run-of-the-mill community fundraisers. The coverage by The Christian Science Monitor, finally, is, again, nothing more than a trivial mention, nothing of depth. So, in my view, this appears to be a case of puffery.--70.80.234.196 (talk) 23:34, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment -- To clarify: The 1st citation of an op-ed piece in the San Diego Union-Tribune was to cite the reference to the Heart Fund Association and volunteerism; the 1st reference of San Diego Magazine wasn't in reference to the subject; it was included as a citation for the reference of Ocean Beach and "Antiques row" as a tourist shopping destination. Citations by other newspapers quoting her is that she appears to be a source for newspapers when they're looking for someone to quote. As for the Daily Transcript, they had a blurb about her and others who were given annual awards, not in a press release but in the newspaper. There is an accumulation of awards at different levels, as well as volunteerism not just locally for a main street organization, but for a nationally known hospital and a national animal group, and not a flash in the pan but on a sustained level of many years. I guess I'm confused how by writing a NPOV article with citations and sources in a factual way can now be referred to as "puffery." AuthorAuthor (talk) 00:48, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
 * BTW please note that there is no such newspaper as "San Diego News". The website "sdnews.com" is for the San Diego Newspaper Group, which publishes several free weekly community papers, including the Peninsula Beacon which covers Ocean Beach. Citations in this article to "sdnews" are actually to the Beacon. I would not consider the Beacon a "reliable source" - it uses freelancer reporters as well as staff writers, and its editorial standards are not high. In addition, it is purely local; it just serves the Point Loma and Ocean Beach neighborhoods. --MelanieN (talk) 14:26, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, San Diego Community News Group is SDNews.com online, which purchased the Beacon in 1990, and renamed it the Peninsula Beacon because it covers both Point Loma and Ocean Beach and outlying communities in the area. According to the Library of Congress' listing, the Beacon published from 1983 until 1990 when SD Community News Group purchased it. I'll make a change in the article to reflect the actual name of the newspaper rather than the name of the paper's online site. Thanks for pointing that out. As for freelancers as opposed to staff writers, big and small newspapers and magazines throughout history have called upon the reporting of both freelancers and staff writers to flesh out their news coverage. --AuthorAuthor (talk) 04:23, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * NOTE: 2 out of 5 of the references -- used as reliable sources -- in the Bennie Edens Wikipedia article were from the Peninsula Beacon. --AuthorAuthor (talk) 22:09, 24 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep. for same reasons provided by Hullaballoo Wolfowitz. Bidnessman (talk) 23:59, 21 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete. Seems more WP:SPAMmy than anything else. Student7 (talk) 18:19, 22 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment -- The citations in the article were included as legitimate, good-faith additions of independent sources meant to verify the article's content. Thanks. --AuthorAuthor (talk) 19:04, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails WP:BIO. No significant coverage in reliable sources, no significant rewards. Claritas § 14:27, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - as per Nom and Student7 Codf1977 (talk) 09:56, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep because I have improved considerably on the article since the nomination, backing up content with citations showing she's volunteered on a sustained basis for nationally recognized nonprofits, not just at local level, plus I just found & added two more reliable sources -- both from the San Diego Union-Tribune -- one from 2009 which quotes Mendoza at the top of the article, backs up the article's content with the statement that she & her husband had 1st antique mall in Ocean Beach & refers to OB as an antiques district; and the other, from 1994, added as an external reference about collecting, which quotes Mendoza. Thank you. --AuthorAuthor (talk) 14:04, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.