Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Corentine Quiniou


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

Corentine Quiniou
Result: Keep (non-admin closure) as their is significant coverage on the article's subject and is notability is inherent. Mr. C.C. Hey yo!I didn't do it! 20:24, 9 May 2010 (UTC)


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First of all the article seems to be supposed to promote her because the main author User:Socoglio did no contributions in other articles that are not referring to Quiniou. He also uploaded many images of her on Commons. The same user wrote as well articles about her in French and in German Wikipedia, but nothing else there, too.

In addition to that Quiniou does not correspond with Notability (people) because she is an amateur car racing driver who did not compete in professional racing series. She already won some amateur races like Classic Endurance Racing and Rallye Aicha des Gazelles but in races with stronger opponents like Dakar Rally or 24 Hours Nürburgring she only managed position 49 and position 100. The article tells she finished third in her category at 2009 24h Nürburgring, but you have to keep in mind that only three competitors in her category (SP4T) finished the race and Quiniou finished on position 100 overall. An interesting fact is that Quiniou was disqualified in Rallye Aicha des Gazelles for cheating by manipulating their satellite tracking device and setting back their odometer, and there is suspicion that previous years' results were similarly tainted.

So I think Quiniou is not notable enough to be mentioned in Wikipedia, and why should we give Socoglio the opportunity to abuse Wikipedia for promotion? --79.246.182.163 (talk) 21:31, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

I am properly formatting and listing this AfD for for this anonymous editor. Mr. C.C. Hey yo!I didn't do it! 00:56, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of France-related deletion discussions.  -- --Darkwind (talk) 12:58, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions.  -- --Darkwind (talk) 12:58, 29 April 2010 (UTC)


 *  Weak Keep, looks like she can meet the guidelines for general notability, there's a fair amount of press about her Also, I would argue the public accusation of cheating would enhance notability, not diminish it. -- Nuujinn (talk) 13:22, 1 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep,Socoglio desperately tried to keep the information concerning the accuses of 2010 edition of the Rallye Aicha des Gazelles out of Wikipedia (see the page's history). I'm just wondering - just a few days after Socoglio's desperate attempt there is a a deletion discussion going on triggered by an anonymous IP Adress - who's behind that? My opinion is that the public accusation not only enhances the notability. So please don't delete it. I'm just thinking of posting a few sentences into the german edition. --Konuzelmann Thomas (talk) 17:36, 1 May 2010 (UTC) — Konuzelmann Thomas (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Comment Just a general comment, but the article could stand to be cleaned up, and the pictures scattered around. Now Socoglio needs to be told and or warned not to remove information for whatever reason because that can be seen as vandalism.  Wikipedia is not here to promote the positives of article subjects, but it is here to let the reader know about the negatives of the subject as well.  I left a message on Socoglio's talk page about this AfD going on.  But as we can tell, Socoglio has not responded to this as of yet.   Mr. C.C. Hey yo!I didn't do it! 19:48, 2 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment, I'll try to give it a copy edit sweep in the next couple of days, assuming it's still here. -- Nuujinn (talk) 00:47, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment Plus formatting the references would be good.  Mr. C.C. Hey yo!I didn't do it! 00:56, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, --Darkwind (talk) 01:21, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Comment The link on the article to here is broken. And I've begun adding references, I'm not done yet, but please take a look sometime in the next few days. -- Nuujinn (talk) 01:14, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment The external links can be moved into the appropriate spots in the articles as references. I have been moving around some of the pictures in the article and not sticking them in just a gallery.   Mr. C.C. Hey yo!I didn't do it! 02:58, 6 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment I think there are enough references to establish notability now. -- Nuujinn (talk) 14:12, 8 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment Socoglio has again tried to delete the cheating allegations on the 3rd of May. By the way he deleted the issue on the German page as well. In the meantime it has been restored again. He hasn't touched the French page yet.--Konuzelmann Thomas (talk) 14:36, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. The sources in the article and linked above show clear notability. This looks very much like a textbook case of the law of untintended consequences, by which an article started for the purposes of promotion is no longer wanted by the creator when it has been edited by others to give a more balanced view of the subject. Phil Bridger (talk) 21:36, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.