Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cork County Cricket Club


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. The argument that this is playing at the highest tier has clearly been debunked and there has been no alternaotive evidenc epresented that this this passed GNG. The deletes therefore have it. Spartaz Humbug! 17:05, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Cork County Cricket Club

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Fails WikiProject Cricket guidelines and also WP:GNG and WP:CLUB. Mtking (talk) 23:53, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Cricket-related deletion discussions.  —Mtking (talk) 23:56, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - Does not fail on #1. This should be considered within an Irish sporting context. There are many articles on Irish sporting clubs well below the level of 'county'. The article is as yet very undeveloped, but the club has a long history and there is no reason to believe that the article cannot develop, especially given the revival of interest in Irish cricket. RashersTierney (talk) 00:08, 10 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete: And articles on Irish sporting clubs below the top level should likewise be deleted, if they meet neither the GNG nor any other notability criteria. Do you have any evidence to proffer that this one does?   Ravenswing  05:18, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge: Merge article with Cork (city) and create redirect to relevant section within the article. AssociateAffiliate (talk) 15:05, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * No need for a merger; all the relevant information is already in the Cork city article.  Ravenswing  18:18, 10 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep - This is a cricket club playing at the highest possible level of club cricket in Ireland. Mooretwin (talk) 22:58, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: ... a statement contradicted by one of the only two sentences this article contains ("Although located within the Munster jurisdiction, the club plays in Division 2 of the Leinster Senior League."), as well as by the only link the article proffered. I dislike asking "Did you read the article you're defending?" but I'm quite puzzled at your assertion.   ῲ Ravenswing ῴ  02:40, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: The answer to the question is - Mooretwin created it. Mtking (talk) 04:40, 13 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep - Agree with Rashers, as in the context of Irish sport, this cricket club has a long history and is playing at the highest possible club levels in Ireland. --HighKing (talk) 11:35, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: Except, of course, according to the article and its only available source, it plays at the second club level.  ῲ Ravenswing ῴ  14:17, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: Which, of course, makes it even more notable, the fact that it's the only club playing in the Leinster division that isn't actually from the Leinster province. --HighKing (talk) 14:32, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Reply: You're making a conceptual error here. "Notable" /= "I think it's important."  It's whether a subject passes the relevant notability standards of (in this case) WP:NSPORTS, without which an article cannot be sustained.  This club doesn't.  Failing that, it can qualify under WP:GNG, which holds that a subject must receive coverage in significant detail in multiple, reliable, independent sources.  No evidence that this club does has been produced.  That an organization is playing in another province, has a history or is one of the few clubs playing in a country that is not well known for a particular sport are irrelevant; none of these are acceptable or valid grounds upon which to retain an article.  Since no valid criteria for inclusion has been satisfied, an article on this club cannot be sustained.   ῲ Ravenswing ῴ  16:05, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
 * It's a cricket club playing at the most senior level in the Irish leagues. That meets an appropriate level of notability.  It's as notable as the Northern Premier League Division One North or Division 2 in the Northern Football League (England) which are at levels 8,9 and 10 with clubs like Hebburn Town F.C. or Whickham F.C..  --HighKing (talk) 00:00, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Division 2 isn't the senior most level. Division 1 is. As far as why the second highest level in England is notable and is not so in Ireland, you'll have to take that up with the Cricket WikiProject, but I expect their answer would be somewhere along the lines of "Cricket is a major sport in England and a relatively insignificant one in Ireland." The local cricket club in my hometown (in Massachusetts) isn't notable either, for similar reasons.   ῲ Ravenswing ῴ  01:24, 14 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete For the same reasons as Articles for deletion/Clogher Cricket Club, club cricket in Ireland is not significant, lack of any covering of this club says to me fails WP:GNG. VER  Tott  10:36, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
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