Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cornelius (Jakobs)


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) Michaelzeng7 (talk) 01:26, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Cornelius (Jakobs)

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Non-notable Bishop with no sources provided. I could not find any to establish notability. Tinton5 (talk) 02:35, 24 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep - I've cleaned the article up a bit and added the couple of references I could find quickly - those about his 2009 85th birthday and the publication of his autobiography; both of which were covered by national media. The guy is metropolitan bishop of the Estonian capital Tallinn. He might pass on the basis of WP:CLERGYOUTCOMES if he didn't pass on the basis of WP:GNG (which I think he probably does). Obviously a case of WP:NOENG given most of the sources are in Russian or Estonian, so the nom should be forgiven for any issues with WP:BEFORE. Stalwart 111  04:24, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Just realised his position makes him the highest ranked Orthodox Christian in Estonia; responsible for all of Estonia's 140,000+ Orthodox Christians, not just those in Tallinn. Not a WP:BIGNUMBER argument, I just misunderstood the role. Stalwart 111  04:34, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, I've just added a few sources, fixed some dates and info and added some sub-headings. I'll leave this for others to consider but I really don't think there's a non-notable case anymore. Stalwart 111  05:28, 24 June 2013 (UTC)


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 * Non-notable? He is the head of self-governing church. There are many sources, but its are mostly in Russian and Estonian. ~ Чръный человек (talk) 06:49, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, "Non-notable Bishop" was always going to be a big call. Stalwart 111  07:33, 24 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep. Head of the largest Orthodox Church in Estonia. Plenty of sources, though mostly not in English. Clearly notable. -- 202.124.89.4 (talk) 07:35, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep: Definitely notable as the coverage shows. SL93 (talk) 14:10, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:17, 24 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep - I am surprised to see this article nominated here. The man's notability cannot be in doubt, given his status in both Estonia and the Russian Orthodox Church. Ample coverage with reliable sources.--Zananiri (talk) 09:46, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Of course keep -- A Metrpolitan is similar to an archbishop, and we are not dealing with a fringe denomination, with a self-appointed archbishop. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:29, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
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