Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cornish Holocaust


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was Delete. I looked at all the comments, and the arguments to delete this article definitely outweigh the arguments to keep (or rename) it. Deathphoenix ʕ 15:59, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

In addition, I wanted to point out that there is nothing useful here that isn't already in Prayer Book Rebellion. --Deathphoenix ʕ 16:02, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Cornish Holocaust
This article is completely uncited expect for a page which itself states that it "...sets out the hypothesis that the Cornish people are being subjected to policies of genocide". There's no indication that the concept of a "Cornish Holocaust" exists in general reliably-published historical work; reiterating an original-research source still falls under No original research. It's massively non-neutral, and I honestly doubt it could ever be anything but with a title like that; an article on the "Anglo-Cornish war of 1549" (which seems to be a part of the Prayer Book Rebellion titled as a war, and is itself probably an OR-ish term) might be useful, but this article shows no sign it could ever be it. I honestly don't think Wikipedia would be improved by keeping it. Shimgray | talk | 20:13, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
 * This article completely violates WP:OR, WP:V and WP:NPOV. It's not worthy of inclusion in any encyclopaedia. --Rory096 20:30, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
 * The term turns up no results in Google Books or Scholar, but it's all over UK sites on Google. I think it's a legitimate term; whether or not this article accurately describes it, I don't know. &mdash; BRIAN 0918 &bull; 2006-06-07 20:37
 * Delete per nom. --Lancsalot 20:40, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge or Keep If this article can get better sourcing than one partisan website, and can be rewritten to remove POV, it might be savable. Hard slog though. More likely the few bits that are useful should be merged with Prayer Book Rebellion and a redirect left  + + Lar: t/c 21:16, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete as original research and because it is inherently POV. There are no reliable sources indicating that genocide of Cornish people is taking place. Capitalistroadster 21:23, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Weak delete A Google search only turned up about a dozen uses of "Cornish Holocaust," so the term isn't widely used at any rate. Ace of Sevens 21:38, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Lar's suggestion of merging with Prayer Book Rebellion, which itself struck me as rather ambitious in its claims given the total absence of sources, seems unwise. The first thing Google found me started thus: "Despite the best efforts of the County historians to deny the Cornish Holocaust ...". So that's the WP:V issue settled then. Delete per nom. Angus McLellan (Talk) 23:48, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Weak delete per Ace of Sevens. The article is desperately POV, poorly written, and sad, but very earnest.  Merging with Prayer Book Rebellion is pointless, because, as one can see if one reads both articles carefully, this Holocaust article was largely lifted from the older article (which is no great shakes, either, as others have pointed out here).  It would be nice if there could be one decent article on the topic, but I do not believe either of these offers a very good start. ---Charles 04:28, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. Anglo-Cornish war of 1549? can anyone provide a cite for this event.  I've cornish ancestry, and I've never heard of it refered like that, let alone this abuse of the word Holocaust.  Does he mean the Prayer Book Rebellion? Putting down a local insurrection is not ethnic cleansing.  Maybe we need an article on the Lincolnshire Genocide too. -- GWO
 * Delete looks like original research. Kurando | ^_^ 08:24, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Rename to something less POV. I did a quick google for 1549 Bodmin and from Bodmin Town council found The three main Cornish rebellions of 1483, 1497 and 1549 were centred on Bodmin. so I suspect there is some truth to this. --Salix alba (talk) 21:31, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, unless many sources are found so that it can be adequately written under another name. gren グレン 16:58, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, there's not enough sourced and NPOV material here to scavenge for another article. GeeJo (t)⁄(c) &bull; 18:02, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Rename to something less POV. --Mais oui! 12:43, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm afraid renaming simply will not do the trick. The content of the article is so desperately, earnestly POV that only a complete edit and rewrite can save it.  The title is certainly part of the problem (hyperbole to an absurd degree) but it is only the beginning. ---Charles 17:24, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete- makes a mockery of the real holocaust Astrotrain 20:13, 14 June 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.