Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cornish shin kicking


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. -- Cirt (talk) 01:56, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Cornish shin kicking

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Speedy declined (nominated as "hoax"). Maybe it's not a hoax, but no claims of importance are made, no sources are provided. Is this topic really a valid subject? &mdash; Timneu22 · &#32; talk 16:48, 6 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete The term "Cornish Skin Kicking" is mentioned on page 5 of http://wpcc.dusa.org.au/pdf/0506-Newsletter10.pdf It seems to be a real but non-notable activity. Prsaucer1958 (talk) 17:03, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment That one use of the term in some newsletter does not go very far toward showing that it is a "real activity." It was just a reference to someone thinking of beating someone up. Edison (talk) 17:25, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete It is a sport in Cotswold, but that is not Cornwall. The idea of shin kicking as a sport is not at all a hoax, but I did not find references to show it is or was a common Cornish sport. A BBC article on the sport says that the competitors stuff their trousers with straw, as this stub states, but it is a Cotswold sport. Shin kicking appears to have been a legitimate wrestling move in Devon, but not in Cornwall in 19th century:, . Shin kicking was a part of the "Cotswold Olimpick Games" from the early 17th century, with some interruptions (Cromwell's reign, for instance) to the present.. There might be a basis  for an article on "Shin kicking" as a sport or form of wrestling, or wrestling move.  "Purring"  was a British shin-kicking contest in which the men wore heavy clogs. Edison (talk) 17:17, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Snow delete. Who declined this? There are only five Google hits, four of which are either Wikipedia or message boards. Erpert (let's talk about it) 17:23, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * To answer your question. &mdash; Timneu22 · &#32; talk 17:28, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * And that was perfectly proper. It takes more than one editor to reliably decide whether something like this is a hoax. Uncle G (talk) 20:13, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * To clarify: Shin-kicking clearly exists, and as I put in the decline, it is associated with the Cotswolds (I meant to say it isn't clear that it exists in Cornwall). My point in declining is that it's not a clear-cut hoax; that doesn't mean it shouldn't be deleted.  Acroterion  (talk)  19:07, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * My research agrees with Edison's. I cannot find reference to a sport of shin kicking in the U.K. outside of the Cotswold Olimpick Games (to which shin kicking has redirected for some years, now), with the exception of a half-sentence comparison to Savate in one source and a passing mention of shin kicking at Cooper's Hill Wake during the 19th century in another.  That latter source, ISBN 9780740781209, also gives shin-kicking a full discussion in its own right, so I also agree with Edison that there might be scope for expanding shin kicking, if further sources turn up.  But this article, both in title and content, is unverifiable.  Delete.  Uncle G (talk) 20:13, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. I find it very hard to believe there's such a festival with no mention anywhere on GNews, never mind a notable one. Chris Neville-Smith (talk) 20:40, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete as a hoax. Declined?  Are you kidding?  This isn't even as real as crack-smoking unicorns! -- Dennis The Tiger   (Rawr and stuff) 21:34, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete No evidence that the "festival" exists. Per Edison, there does appear to be some potential scope for a stand-alone article on the phenomenon (I wouldn't quite term it a sport).  Acroterion  (talk)  19:09, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.