Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Coronavirus disease COVID-19 in Russian nursing homes for the elderly and disabled


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The result was merge to Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on long-term care facilities. (non-admin closure) buidhe 22:12, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

Coronavirus disease COVID-19 in Russian nursing homes for the elderly and disabled

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There isn't a necessity to create an article like this only related to COVID-19 cases in the nursing homes for the disabled in Russia. I don't think this kind of article is written on the perspective of other countries. I also speculate the author might have created the article in Russian language which is also nominated for deletion in Russian Wikipedia. The sources are purely in Russian language. Abishe (talk) 18:59, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Disability-related deletion discussions. Abishe (talk) 18:59, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Health and fitness-related deletion discussions. Abishe (talk) 18:59, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Russia-related deletion discussions. Abishe (talk) 18:59, 30 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep, -- I don't see any reasons yet. Sources are good, but it's yet a stub, they will be added with the time, I'll add these in half-hour, see BBC, for example, [Coronavirus: Nightmare spreads through Russia's care homes https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52784913]. So, BBC may be a reason for notable item, I suppose. But anyway, thank you for your work on Wikipedia as reviewer. PoetVeches (talk) 19:37, 30 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete/Draft Nothing here that can't be covered in the Russian Covid-19 article. The length of the article title is ridiculous, it's not even a plausible search term. An article on the subject of Care Homes in Russia during covid-19 might be something that is justifiable in the future but its WP:TOOSOON to write a complete article or know if it will get sustained coverage and be notable in its own right. It likely will be, but as of now it is not. AlessandroTiandelli333 (talk) 21:56, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
 * This Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on long-term care facilities is also too long, it's not reason. Too soon - may not be reason too when it was a month ago on BBC (It's not 2024 Hollywood future movie about Michael Jackson). Reasons may be a spam, or lack of sources, libel, attack pages, xenophobic, etc. PoetVeches (talk) 22:44, 30 May 2020 (UTC)


 * I do think this is a potentially very important article, though it would need more development as it is probably just a little WP:TOOSOON. Whilst the article title could be shortened to Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on long-term care facilities in Russia, for now I suggest simply to merge a summary of the unfolding story into a new section in the current article at Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on long-term care facilities. It doesn't matter that the sources are in Russian, but the content does need to be succinct. The current article can be draftified, to be worked up as more information comes to light into a separate article - assuming the current one becomes too long. Nick Moyes (talk) 23:51, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, let's give short shrift for this information that smells rotten eggs on Russia's Health Service. Vladimir Putin would agree with you. PoetVeches (talk) 00:03, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
 * You do your cause no good by saying that. I have offered my view as to the best way forward to present information on an unfolding situation now, whilst also allowing you to develop more detail and put a properly formed page into mainspace when its ready. If you are here to WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS, you will not have much success, and will only get frustrated and cross with everyone else. I did not waste my time copyediting your article to improve on its English simply because I wanted to see it immediately deleted! Nick Moyes (talk) 00:13, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you anyway for your time wasting on the Russian matters. I am really supporter of democracy and appreciate your opinion without any irony. Also I am not going to be crazy about the deletion because BBC articles about the Russian drama yet remain to be published and you cannot delete them, that how democracy is working. Wikipedia is only a mirror of BBC, CNN, and other free news agencies. PoetVeches (talk) 00:22, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
 * All said opinions are not serious. This is article about drama in Russian care homes, it's not for a section or paragraph to merge in other article. It's well sourced. It's illustrated. It cannot be moved to draft space, because it's not a draft, but an article of start class. But I appreciate all opinions said. Thank you. PoetVeches (talk) 00:45, 31 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Have their been any deaths in the homes, attributed to COVID-19? (To be clear, I think this still could be a legitimate topic without death. If worse comes to worse in this vote, I think the entirety would be valid within Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on long-term care facilities.) --  Zanimum (talk) 01:19, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
 * To answer my own question, the BBC says that Russia (so far) is an outlier in terms of infection rate, which either means the country's nursing homes have faired better than the rest of Europe, or there's been a cover-up, as noted by a nursing home operator at the end of the article. I do feel this is a valid topic. --  Zanimum (talk) 01:34, 31 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge per . Splitting can be considered if/when it gains more content. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:13, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Abstained to comment any more because I was accused on WP:Tea House of WP:CANVASSING so I have to say to all, and of course, it is absolutely on your choice, all the people, how to vote, yes or no. Thank you again. I have to not interrupt your vote procedure with my comments also and keep silent, I suppose. I apologize I didn't know I cannot comment because it would a WP:CANVASSING. I just wonder what is criteria for deletion, but nobody answers me. PoetVeches (talk) 14:13, 31 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge and redirect to Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on long-term care facilities. There doesn’t seem to be too much here that is unique to Russia to do a merge and redirect. The info will actually be better served in an article that is easier to find. TimTempleton (talk) (cont)  15:46, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge to Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on long-term care facilities, and also summarize some of the content in COVID-19 pandemic in Russia (itself a plausible merge target). This very specific article is within the scope of both of those articles, so WP:OVERLAP applies.Note: the article since the last AfD comment before me. — MarkH21talk 21:03, 3 June 2020 (UTC)


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