Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cory Williams (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was keep. Cleanup/better sourcing may be required to prevent another renomination. ɑʀкʏɑɴ 22:50, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Cory Williams
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This was considered here and deleted earlier; see link to the right. It was then undeleted at the request of the subject through OTRS. The request of the subject is not binding here, however, and it should be considered again here, not as a BLP concern per se, since apparently the subject is fine with it, but on the merits--notability and sourcing. My concern is that it does not cite reliable sources, but rather blogs and youtube pages. Chick Bowen 04:06, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment Well, there's this. I'll see what else is out there. Zagalejo ^  ^  ^  04:51, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * There's also an article from the Thousand Oaks Acorn. Zagalejo ^ ^  ^  05:00, 6 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Weak keep *takes a deep breath* Profile in Modesto Bee: . Profile in smaller newspaper The Acorn: . He's the host of The FIZZ on DirectTV. According to the Associated Press, he founded the "As One" YouTube Gathering: . CNET write-up of the gathering: . Associated picture:  He's a partner in the YouTube revenue sharing program, which might help him fulfill WP:WEB's The content is distributed via a medium which is both respected and independent of the creators, either through an online newspaper or magazine, an online publisher, or an online broadcaster. He's the 34th most subscribed YouTuber, which gives him some amount of name recognition, considering that YouTube is the 4th most visited website in existence, behind Yahoo, Google and MSN. But all that said, I wouldn't mind too much if we just merged the notable stuff to YouTube celebrities. His article attracts the ire of visiting Encyclopedia Dramatica editors, for whatever reason, making it a prime vandal target. Ichormosquito 05:02, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment His YouTube username, smpfilms, gets over a million ghits, for the little that's worth. Ichormosquito 13:21, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak keep, seems to just|barely scrape by WP:BIO. Too many of the article's sources are iffy due to COI and should be better disclaimed, and the tone is promotional (as often happens with borderline cases trying to better assert notability, thereby crossing the line into spam). --Dhartung | Talk 10:42, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep, he's the 32nd most subscribed person on YouTube with 35000 subscribers (subscribers are people who recieve an e-mail everytime he releases a new video). That puts him above other people with articles who are well-known only on YouTube such as Renetto, Nalts, and Emmalina, just to name a few -- Mr.crabby   (Talk)   15:57, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment The arguments made at the Emmalina and Renetto AfDs apply here, as well. When determining the notability of YouTube celebrities, it makes sense to factor in YouTube prominence with whatever reliable sources there are, in the same way we would factor in film or television roles when determining the notability of an actor.  So long as we keep the barrier set at a "fair" amount of coverage in reliable sources, which I think this article has, Wikipedia won't be flooded by YouTuber articles, while still being able to proportionately represent the YouTube phenomenon.  Ichormosquito 17:39, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak keep as he appears to be notable. Needs better sourcing, and I'll try, too. Bearian 18:22, 10 October 2007 (UTC)


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