Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Countess of Windermere

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Countess of Windermere
Hoax. No such earldom. Mackensen (talk) 21:09, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Abstain The article does not state that the Countess is a peer in the House of Lords. Titles can be granted with no peerage included.  The article simply states that she votes Conservitive in the UK and Republican in the US.  Noticed the VC was also removed from the author(?); I've made similar mistakes when making editions to other articles.  Whether the title really exists I do not know, but sounds plausible.  One could always called Buckingham Palace or The Home Office for authentication.  KCD Not remotely convincing - and I think it is for the author to cite verifiable sources (DeBrette's or Burke's Peerage??) which he fails to do --Doc Glasgow 08:19, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Oh come on, the VC is just a dead giveaway. Average Earthman 23:24, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Nil on Google & I have relations who live near W'mere & DNK of this. But the background is detailed and may lead somewhere. Abstain --Simon Cursitor 07:39, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * I doubt that very much, as not one single peerage reference makes any mention of such a title. Mackensen (talk) 12:45, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Ha! B*llocks! Only life peers are now created - and never by QM and an hereditary VC for bravery in combat... wake up! --Doc Glasgow 10:03, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * FYI :: Not so -- I've forgotten the title but RH William Whitelaw was given an hereditary peerage not so long ago. of course, this is England, and we're all know to to Bilderberg degenerates so .,..-- Simon Cursitor 09:09, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually, a handful of hereditary peerages have been given comparatively recently, but only to people like Whitelaw with no sons so the title would not be inherited in practice, a very British fudged compromise. The whole article is full of implausibilities to anyone who knows much about British titles and awards, but the most obvious is that it is obviously inspired by Lady Windermere's Fan, a fairly well known play by Oscar Wilde. Delete PatGallacher 13:03, 2005 Apr 30 (UTC)
 * The Earldom of Stockton, created in 1984 for Harold Macmillan, has now been inherited by his grandson, and there are several other heirs if his line dies out. (And this "Windermere" title isn't simply "implausible" - it can be stated with absolute certainty that it doesn't exist.) Proteus (Talk) 13:43, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Whitelaw and Macmillan both got their peerages in the early 80's - and were notable exceptions. Since then no non-royal hereditaries have been created. A hereditary to a royal lackey is thus implausible. This article is however quite amusing. Doc Glasgow


 * Delete. In fact, this is almost a speedy by the patent nonsense criterion. James F. (talk) 19:49, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, obviously. Proteus (Talk) 20:10, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete rubbish Leithp 08:00, 1 May 2005 (UTC)


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