Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/County Highways in the Traverse City Area


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The result was Delete per consensus. --Anthony Bradbury"talk" 17:23, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

County Highways in the Traverse City Area

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As noted in the PROD, there are two foundational issues with this and a third additional issue.
 * First, the scope is poorly defined. If such an article were created, it should have been confined to a single county (Grand Traverse) and should then be a comprehensive list of that single county's county roads. Supposedly based on the first sentence, this is supposed to correspond to the Traverse City micropolitan area, yet that µSA only has four counties and this list has entries for nine counties. Also, what is the metric for "most traveled" in use?
 * Second, the terminology is completely wrong. The only "county highways" Michigan has are in the List of County-Designated Highways in Michigan, what this article erroneously calls the "Michigan Letter-Number System". The older numbered county road system, where still in use, the CR numbers were initially assigned in a repeating grid scheme that assigned certain numbers to certain areas, much like the concept that the Interstate Highways or the U.S. Highways in Michigan fall into certain numerical ranges. That is why CR 612 can cross county lines and retain its number.
 * Third, this list is completely unsourced. I feel that because it wasn't based on sources to start, that's why we have the two issues above, along with abbreviation formats that are not consistent with the rest of Wikipedia's coverage of major roadways in Michigan. As noted above, we have no source for defining these as the "most traveled" roads in these counties, so we don't even know if this listing is correct.  Imzadi 1979  →   22:31, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete this specific list because its scope is poorly defined. However, the coverage of non-CDH county highways in Michigan in by-county lists is perfectly valid and it is hoped the lists can be made in the future. It may help to sandbox this list or put in on a talk page somewhere so the information can be available to editors who want to make the proper lists in the future.  Dough   4872   00:49, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. Lists for freeways and signed highways in a major metro area are bad enough, let's not make it worse by adding even less notable highways in even less notable areas.  Sounder Bruce  03:11, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. --Rschen7754
 * Delete. County highways are better suited to lists by county (See County routes in New York,) not by metropolitan or micropolitan area. Vcap36 (talk) 02:27, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Michigan-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:35, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:35, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:35, 9 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete - badly sorted list - per WP:TNT. Bearian (talk) 20:37, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as not convincing for its own article. SwisterTwister   talk  04:58, 12 April 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.