Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/County Road 308B (Putnam County, Florida)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to List of county roads in Putnam County, Florida. Beeblebrox (talk) 00:17, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

County Road 308B (Putnam County, Florida)

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This article has previously survived AFD, and PROD, but has not been improved at all since then. The article is an orphan, and makes no statement as to why it passes the WP:GNG. Admrboltz (talk) 18:54, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 *  Keep . The statement that the article makes no claim to notability is false; the route is a former state road and states as such in the article. - The Bushranger One ping only 19:08, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Just because its a former state road does not make it notable. --Admrboltz (talk) 19:10, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 * See also U.S. Roads WikiProject notability guidelines. --Admrboltz (talk) 19:17, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Improved refs. I personally have no problem with having the article redirected to a list of roads, but the existing Florida state roads list needs much improvement. - The Bushranger One ping only 19:20, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete I don't agree that this article meets WP:GNG. Yes, it might be a former state road, but I don't think that is an automatic pass to meet GNG.  Imzadi  1979   →  19:15, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep - The article is a former state route, which gives it grounds for notability, but the article needs improvements. I could easily add a route description, junction list, and infobox to make this a decent article on a former state route.  Dough 48  72  20:19, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I can add a history of the roads through my apartment complex, complete with junction lists. That doesn't make them notable either.  Imzadi  1979   →  20:21, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 * In terms of notability, I would draw the line between state routes (no matter when they existed) and county routes for having their own articles. Since this is a former state route, it can warrant an article. Had this been the 1960s, we would not even be having this discussion.  Dough 48  72  20:24, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 * This isn't the 1960s, and we are having this discussion. Even if this were a current state road, it still might not be notable on its own. My rule of thumb has been: state highways are notable until proven otherwise, county road are not notable until proven otherwise. Just being a former state road isn't enough to tip the scales towards notability, so I vote delete.  Imzadi  1979   →  20:32, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of county roads in Putnam County, Florida.  Dough 48  72  20:41, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge somewhere or delete. Might be notable, but not for its own article. --Rschen7754 20:26, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 * What I think would be best for Florida is for someone to create a list of former state highways in Florida, as has been suggested for months at Former State Roads in east central Florida. That way, all of these ex-State Roads that don't appear to merit individual articles - such as this one - can be covered somewhere. For now, this should be redirected to List of county roads in Putnam County, Florida. –  T M F 23:12, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of county roads in Putnam County, Florida, although if somebody can create more lists of former state roads in other regions of Florida, I'd consider a redirect to there instead. DanTD (talk) 23:21, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions.  -- Jclemens-public (talk) 00:10, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions.  -- Jclemens-public (talk) 00:10, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, that page exists already? Then Redirect to List of county roads in Putnam County, Florida, and I'll see if I can shake the time tree to get time to do a former state roads list. - The Bushranger One ping only 01:34, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep This article can be improved with an infobox and navbox. The infobox would display the basic information on the right side of the page, and the navbox would make it not an orphan. Linda Olive (talk) 04:56, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure, it can be improved. But is it notable? --Rschen7754 05:12, 17 December 2010 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.