Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Crab soccer (2nd nomination)


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The result was keep. While the article has needed work for a long time, and possibly may always, consensus is that it passes at least WP:GNG. Hzh has provided several great print sources. (non-admin closure) Ifnord (talk) 15:17, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Crab soccer
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This was the subject of an Afd discussion back in the early days of Wikipedia, and was kept on the basis of a large number of variations on "I can't personally find any sources but I'm sure they exist" and nothing even remotely based on policy, even the relatively laxer policies of that time. Thirteen years later, and the purported sources still consist of a Wikipedia page, a four-sentence entry in a Boy Scouts directory, a dead link, and a single paragraph in a blog entry from 2014. I've looked—hard—for anything approaching a reliable source; while I can find a fair few mentions on blogs and personal website, I'm literally finding nothing (on either or ) that even remotely could be considered a source for Wikipedia's purposes. &#8209; Iridescent 16:51, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
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 * Keep A quick Google Books search brings up lots of coverage, and there are even mentions in a few scholarly articles. A web search was deficient, though. SportingFlyer  T · C  18:30, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Found this straight-away. I know it is/was played in primary schools in the UK, as I played it in PE classes.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 19:10, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 14:47, 17 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete - I vaguely remember playing this at school. But since when did we have articles on playground/school activities? Lack of sources is key here. GiantSnowman 14:49, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep additional sourcing to show there is reliable source coverage of this exists. We need better sourcing and more historical analysis, but this is a subject that passes notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:13, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete primary school kid's games with non-concrete rules is not the purpose of Wikipedia. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:29, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep (or at the very least merge as a WP:ATD to some relevant article about football variants). WP:DINC, and in any case there appears to be sufficient coverage of this in proper sources such as the one Lugnuts indentifies. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 00:19, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep There are enough sources to satisfy GNG, just a few here - . Hzh (talk) 14:35, 24 June 2020 (UTC)


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