Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Crack of doom


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Last Judgment. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:11, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

Crack of doom

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bog-standard dicdef, no sourcing found Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 14:04, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Merge to Last Judgment, which is what it means, & does not mention the phrase at present. Didn't that occur to you, TPH? Johnbod (talk) 14:11, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bible-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:39, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:39, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Language-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:39, 17 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Merge to Last Judgement and create dabpage, since Mount Doom is also relevant here and probably better-known. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:42, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
 * To spell it out, Cracks of Doom goes to Mount Doom (which certainly wasn't better known to me), so maybe disam, with LJ as primary. Johnbod (talk) 18:06, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I think what's primary depends on whether you're primarily a Biblical scholar or primarily a fantasy fan! As the latter, I would generally think of Crack of Doom as relating to LotR in the singular rather than the plural! -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:19, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Crack of Doom is not a biblical phrase at all, in terms of any actual translation, afaik, but a popular English term that Shakespeare has perpetuated in ordinary usage. Johnbod (talk) 15:32, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Even more of a reason not to have a primary topic! -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:04, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Why? I don't see that at all. Johnbod (talk) 18:05, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Because it's just a poetic reference as opposed to something that actually appears in the original source material. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:55, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Again, it's origin is not poetic, but just as a natural idiomatic term. It just seems poetic to us, as the meanings of the words have changed, and we associate it with Shakespeare (or even Tolkien). Johnbod (talk) 13:59, 19 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Merge to Last Judgment, as the target article that best places this in context. Necrothesp has a point, as the Mount Doom location is well-known. There is also a rock climbing area known as the Crack of Doom in Yosemite. --Mark viking (talk) 17:35, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
 * That's just one of many routes up an Elephant Rock that we don't have an article on, in Yosemite, so needn't worry us I think. Johnbod (talk) 18:09, 17 October 2017 (UTC)


 * I Agree: Merge it. I have made a different suggestion on another Shakespearean quote.  If there are significant other uses, we can make the redirect left on merger into a dabpage.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:36, 22 October 2017 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.