Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Craig's Brother


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The result was   Keep (non-admin closure), with notability confirmed. Rock on! Ecoleetage (talk) 00:40, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

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Band with no assertion of notability, fails WP:MUSIC notability criteria, no reliable sources, not to mention the unencyclopedic tone and COI editing (e.g. ) Stormie (talk) 00:55, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Also nominating the band's recordings:


 * Keep meets WP:MUSIC, but the albums themselves fail WP:MUSIC.   Esradekan Gibb    "Talk" 02:52, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - On a major label and has shared the stage with highly notable bands such as Yellowcard.  a s e nine  say what?  05:44, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep main article because it meets album criteria on WP:MUSIC. No comment on album articles.  Royal broil  12:44, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.   -- Fabrictramp (talk) 22:32, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.   -- Fabrictramp (talk) 22:32, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Steady Keep Ryan Key, of Yellowcard, was once in the band, which makes it notable enough. [ The Spooky One ] | [ t c r ] 05:01, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * KEEP ALL The band, as demonstrated above, meets the notability requirements. As for the albums, I'd have to say keep as well. WP:MUSIC states that "In general, if the musician or ensemble that recorded an album is considered notable, then officially released albums may have sufficient notability to have individual articles on Wikipedia." So that on its own should merit a keep. If you want to be anal about sources, they may seem non-notable, but Homecoming has a review in a notable publication. So there just may be sources floating around there for someone to add when they have the time. The sourcing problem is best dealt with the "unreferenced" tag, not an AfD. WP:MUSIC#Albums also states that "Album articles with little more than a track listing may be more appropriately merged into the artist's main article or discography article, space permitting." The albums could conceivably be merged into a "Discography" section, but that would take up too much space, and would make creating the articles again when the sources are added a time-consuming job that would best be spent elsewhere. And if the album articles are deleted, there would be no chance to integrate all the content into the article per above anyway. Finally, since the nom somehow missed this article, it would look very silly if that was the only one to stick around, wouldn't it? KEEP ALL for all of these reasons. --Pwnage8 (talk) 01:00, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


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