Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Craig Drummond


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. ✗ plicit  14:57, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Craig Drummond

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Non-notable per WP:BIO, WP:NAUTHOR and WP:ENT. He's a lawyer who's had some notable clients, but on Wikipedia notability is not inherited. The book is self-published, and the only review of it I could find in reliable sources is the  St. Joseph News-Press review cited. He has appeared on some local news broadcasts, appeared once on Court TV as a legal commentator (at 4:00 - 8:26 in the source cited), and wrote a commentary piece for the News Journal, but the sources for that are all primary. All I could find about him in a WP:BEFORE search of secondary sources was passing mentions, with no significant coverage of him, apart from him speaking publicly about cases where he was counsel. Article creator is a declared paid editor for another Las Vegas company, and both the unsourced personal details and repeated uploads of promotional photos suggests conflict of interest or undisclosed paid editing. Wikishovel (talk) 10:20, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Authors, Law, Military,  and Nevada. Wikishovel (talk) 10:20, 15 March 2024 (UTC)


 * I understand your concerns regarding the notability of the subject as per Wikipedia guidelines. However, I would like to clarify a few points regarding your assessment.
 * While it's true that Craig Drummond may not meet the notability standards outlined in WP:BIO, WP:NAUTHOR, and WP:ENT, it's important to note that notability is not solely determined by a person's profession or the significance of their clients. As you rightly pointed out, the book associated with Craig Drummond is self-published, and the coverage of it in reliable sources is limited.
 * Regarding Craig Drummond's appearances on local news broadcasts, Court TV, and contributions to the News Journal, I acknowledge that the sources provided are primarily primary in nature. However, these appearances and contributions do demonstrate some level of public engagement and recognition within Craig Drummond's field, albeit not to the extent required for Wikipedia notability.
 * Furthermore, I'd like to address your concerns regarding conflict of interest and undisclosed paid editing. While it's important to remain vigilant against such practices, it's equally important not to make assumptions without concrete evidence. Accusations of conflict of interest or undisclosed paid editing can be damaging and should not be generalized without proper verification.My last article was marked as 'paid,' but that doesn't imply that this article is also paid. I have been working on this article for the past month. Therefore, it would be more appropriate for Wikipedia to consider marking it for deletion with proper evidence rather than making assumptions.
 * In conclusion, I appreciate your attention to detail and adherence to Wikipedia guidelines in evaluating the notability of subjects. However, I encourage further discussion and collaboration to ensure the accuracy and neutrality of the information presented in the article. Potpart (talk) 18:03, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  12:12, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete: as irredeemably promotional per WP:G11. Alternatively, delete because the only arguably significant coverage is about the one book he's published (which doesn't meet WP:NAUTHOR). I will note that the article creator's comment above is almost certainly LLM-generated and pretty much consists of arguments to avoid. voorts (talk/contributions) 07:41, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Speedy delete: per what Voorts said. - Master of Hedgehogs (converse) (hate that hedgehog!) 14:54, 22 March 2024 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.