Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Craig Huffer


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The result was   keep. -- Cirt (talk) 05:25, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Craig Huffer

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An junior athlete who appears not to qualify for notablity under Wp:athlete Crusoe8181 (talk) 05:38, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep As the athlete Craig Huffer does meet notable athlete criteria and features on IAAF All-time lists as well as being the 15th fastest senior ever over his distance in Australia. Also he has ran the same or better performances over the 1500 meters than several other collegiate middle distance runners with wikipedia pages such as German Fernandez and Miles Batty, as well bettering the performances last year of Australian athletes with wikipedia articles such as Jeremey Roff. He he also proved to be successful at the international level by winning the Mondo Keien Meeting last year an IAAF sanctioned event and meeting another of Wikipedia's athlete notability criteria. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wellington athletic club (talk • contribs) 09:00, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep A google search confirms the notability of this athlete with multiple news articles, images and videos of the athlete. They are also feature particularly prominently in the US and receive a lot of attention amongst track fans. Amiler (talk) 09:56, 16 May 2011 (UTC) — Amiler (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Comment: I only see three sources on Google News, would have expected more if they are "notable" but images and videos of the person doesn't make them notable. Bidgee (talk) 10:17, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions.  —Bidgee (talk) 10:29, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Sub-4miler is still a notable athlete - especially when his 1500m mark coverts to a 3:52 mile. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.18.21.81 (talk) 10:47, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Just checked number 14 on world list for indoor mile in 2011 and broke the track record at the US champs venue earlier in the year. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.18.21.81 (talk) 11:02, 16 May 2011 (UTC)


 * strong delete clearly fails WP:ATHLETE. Has not competed at top amateur level for international athletics. Junior records and "top 14" finishes are irrelevant. Looks like his friends have popped up at this AfD. LibStar (talk) 12:06, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Disagree with LibStar as along with Sam Chelanga Craig Huffer was the only collegiate athlete that was allowed to compete in the prestigious 2011 New Balance Games 3000 meters - one the world's top indoor meets events that is televised nationwide on ESPN 2 in the USA. The athlete like Chelanga receives more coverage in the US than their home country. Also the Number 14 is a world ranking amongst all athletes (professionals and amateurs) over the year and not just a mere event placing. With this attitude no prominet NCAA runners like Huffer, Chelanga, Batty, Fernandez and co. would have articles and their needs to be reliable references with all the hype and rumours floating about on the forums about their ages and backgrounds Wellington athletic club (talk) 12:26, 16 May 2011 (UTC) — Wellington athletic club (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 16:23, 16 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep. A sub-4 minute miler (confirmed by the IAAF) who has competed in a national championships (as long as this can be properly sourced) cannot seriously be considered to have never competed at the highest level. Having said that, the article needs trimming to that material that is verifiable via reliable sources. --Michig (talk) 19:07, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
 * the criteria is clearly here WP:NTRACK. national championships is not a qualification. LibStar (talk) 01:07, 17 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep A 3:59 Mile and 3:36 1500m meet WP:NTRACK criteria 9 and far exceed national level performances. This is supported by the athlete's results at premium IAAF meets WP:NTRACK criteria 3. On the grounds of meeting two of the criterion publication seems logical, plus their notability as a collegiate athlete and national title winner with Adams State would constitute a third criterion being met. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.18.21.81 (talk) 01:22, 17 May 2011 (UTC)  — 119.18.21.81 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Comment: Yeah mate, as well meeting three of the criterion (two for track athlete and one for collegiate athlete), there general notability as a collegiate athlete is an important one WP:NROUTINE. I've also just included about Huffer winning Australia's richest mile race in 2008 to meet road racing criteria which would would mean four criteria are met. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wellington athletic club (talk • contribs) 01:36, 17 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep WP:NTRACK -- Σ ☭ ★  02:32, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
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