Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cranmer Theological House


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge into Reformed Episcopal Church, since most of the people who !voted keep or delete left merge as an acceptable alternative. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 23:50, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Cranmer Theological House

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Non-notable educational institution. Article was previously merged into Reformed Episcopal Church after a merge process in January 2009, but a user has re-created it. Chonak (talk) 20:09, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Same as with the two other discussions: not notable, no valid third-party references. Merge if possible, otherwise delete. The Earwig (User 20:16, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge and Delete. Merge contents into Reformed Episcopal Church, leave Cranmer Theological House as a redirect. Tb (talk) 20:19, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.  —Chonak (talk) 20:24, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions.  —Chonak (talk) 20:27, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Texas-related deletion discussions.  —Chonak (talk) 20:27, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep per this Google news search, and a hit in ProQuest for another sizeable piece in The Advocate (Baton Rouge). I count at least two significant coverage in independent RS, which meets the GNG, and a handful more RS trivial mentions. Jclemens (talk) 20:59, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep -- I would have thought that a college offering degree level courses was notable in its own right, not merely as part of its denomination. Peterkingiron (talk) 23:55, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Request for those who vote keep: Can you indicate whether you would object to a merge to Reformed Episcopal Church in the absence of a fuller article? Tb (talk) 00:06, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
 * It may be relevant to note that the institution is rather small, is not state-accredited, was running only two classes in the Spring 2009 term, and anticipates awarding three degrees at the end of the spring term. Chonak (talk) 20:18, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - For the record, U.S. states (except for New York) don't "accredit" institutions of higher education, although most states have some sort of legal authorization process for postsecondary education institutions. A further wrinkle is that some states (Texas is one and I think Louisiana is another) exempt religious institutions from their authorization process. Technicalities aside, it is clear from http://www.cranmerhouse.org/accreditation.htm that Cranmer House is not accredited (not even by one of the government-recognized Christian accreditors, which include Association of Theological Schools in the United States and Canada and Transnational Association of Christian Colleges and Schools). --Orlady (talk) 22:27, 18 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Weak keep is OK but Merge and redirect to Reformed Episcopal Church is better- Unlike the situation with the "Cummins" theological school, there are some third-party ghits that substantiate the existence of this Reformed Episcopal institution. Specifically, I found several ministers' biographies that list degrees from this school and a couple of other bios of people who identify themselves as faculty. This leads me to think it likely that other third-party coverage exists to establish notability. However, given the current lack of such coverage and the sparseness of the article, merge and redirect seems like the better choice for this article. --Orlady (talk) 22:27, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * "it is likely" that other coverage exists is not the same as any kind of actual verifiable coverage. Tb (talk) 18:54, 19 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Merge to Reformed Episcopal Church, and leave a note on the redirect page pointing people to this AfD and telling them not to recreate the article yet. Karanacs (talk) 15:17, 20 April 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.