Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Crash Music Inc.


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Spartaz Humbug! 05:38, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Crash Music Inc.

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Article came up as CSD-A7, but its been here for 3+ years and is apparently well linked to on site. IMO, an afd would be a better venue to decide whether or not to axe the article. TomStar81 (Talk) 11:26, 15 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment A 4+ year old article still with zero references?  But they are the present and/or past label for many bands with WP articles; they probably could establish wp:notability.  North8000 (talk) 11:33, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
 * That's what kept me from axing it. Its in poor shape to be sure, but it looks like all it needs is some spit and polish to get back up and running. TomStar81 (Talk) 12:11, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Arizona-related deletion discussions.  —Tom Morris (talk) 13:25, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
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 * Delete - That the subject is mentioned on other articles is a good start but it doesn't establish notability. I looked around and could find nothing to establish notability. I thought a look at their official website would give some clues but they don't even have a website, just an "under construction" notice (crashmusicinc.com). Another item on my google search is also titled CRASH MUSIC, INC. but is another nearly identical under construction notice for Pavement Music Inc. I found only one news item that even mentions the subject and it doesn't have even so much as a whole sentence devoted to the subject. A book search goes a little better, but still only a few passing mentions, not more than a couple sentences devoted to the subject. There is some independent reporting on the subject but its not significant enough to pass WP:ORG and WP:GNG. Metal lunchbox (talk) 18:20, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep for now. Like what was stated earlier, this is a 4+ year old article. It just needs a bit of work to prove itself. I don't honestly have the time, but I do not doubt that this article could be saved. With multiple notable bands being signed or starting with this label, it shouldn't be too tough. The Undead Never Die (talk) 09:53, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep A record company is notable if its had notable bands signed to it.  D r e a m Focus  21:44, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Notability is not inherited. - Metal lunchbox (talk) 22:02, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
 * True, but a label that has had bands such as Kreator, Malevolent Creation, and Crowbar will definitely have a lot of useful information on it. The sources just have not been edited into the article yet. The Undead Never Die (talk) 23:48, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
 * You don't inherit notability from being related to someone famous. A company however is notable by what it has done.  What better way to judge a record company, than by what notable bands it has signed?   D r e a m Focus  00:46, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
 * To clarify the point about inheritability, from WP:ORG : "If the organization itself did not receive notice, then the organization is not notable." So a record company having notable bands does not inherit their notability. Maybe someone could find some reliable secondary sources which establish the notability of this organization, but naming bands won't cut it. I was unable to find such sources. - Metal lunchbox (talk) 00:49, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
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