Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Crash My Model Car (2nd)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. Dakota 02:52, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Crash My Model Car


Article was accidentally speedied in vandalized state. A deletion review overturned the deletion but called for a proper AfD. Prior AfD in January was closed as "no consensus". Procedural listing, so I abstain. trialsanderrors 07:44, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete; no claim to notability. is made There's apparently an EP scheduled for release in early December, but that doesn't really say much. Zetawoof(&zeta;) 08:12, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I've reviewed the content which Aecis restored, but I still don't see any claim to notability for the band "Crash My Model Car". The band which begat this one - Poor Old Ben - might have been notable, and might belong at their own page, but this one hasn't gone on tour or released an album yet. (This does sort of bring up a bit of a philosophical question of when a band is still "the same band" - if all of the members are replaced, but the name stays, is it still the same band? If the name changes? etc, etc.) Zetawoof(&zeta;) 21:28, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete no claim to notability in the article, and AMG turns up nothing, which basically means they're unsigned and their forthcoming EP is probably self-published (not that a single EP would meet WP:MUSIC). Xtifr tälk 10:19, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete as failing to assert notability. So tagged. MER-C 10:38, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment: I've restored the content that was blanked prior to the speedy deletion. A  ecis  Dancing to electro-pop like a robot from 1984. 13:52, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, the article looks more interesting now, but none of the information is backed up by any secondary sources, and, very tellingly, neither of the names "Crash My Model Car" nor "Poor Old Ben" turn up anything on Allmusic! "Poor Old Ben" has a listing on last.fm, but no listeners at this moment, and their top track peaked at 13 listeners in the last six months.  I found a reference that Poor Old Ben played at a festival in Glasgow, but...lots of obscure bands get booked into festivals.  I'm fond of trying to salvage band articles, but in this case, I see one album under a different name (and no sign the album was on a major or "important indie" label), and one planned album on an important indie.  WP:MUSIC wants two released albums on a major or important indie.  Even with the restored information, they still seem to fall far short of meeting our notability guidelines.  Xtifr tälk 21:50, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete it's pretty clear that this article lacks the sources or albums needed to pass WP:MUSIC.-- danntm T C 23:43, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete No proof of notability per WP:Music. Edison 00:05, 20 November 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.