Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cream Roll (mountain)


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The result was redirect to List of mountain peaks of Uttarakhand. The mountain does appear to exist but with minimal information about it, so a redirect seems best here. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:28, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Cream Roll (mountain)

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DOES THIS EVEN EXIST? The creator has gone on a spree creating articles of either non-existent peaks/mountains or ones they themselves have named, or ones not notable. This one is padded with info about neighbouring peaks and features, and the references used are spurious. I'm unable to find any reliable references for such a geographical feature. Fails WP:GEOLAND MaysinFourty (talk) 19:22, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 19:24, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 19:24, 22 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Redirect to List of mountain peaks of Uttarakhand. Location-based statistics that fails WP:GEOLAND#4. Reywas92Talk 20:33, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete bullshit article with bullshit sources. I can’t believe that this editor is making a good faith effort to build the encyclopaedia. Well spotted MaysinFourty. Mccapra (talk) 21:06, 22 July 2020 (UTC) Striking inappropriate language with apologies to all. Mccapra (talk) 19:19, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete It does appear in the Alpine Club source if you search (I couldn't find a way to link the results) but still fails WP:NGEO which "specifically excludes maps and various tables from consideration when establishing topic notability" and WP:GEOLAND #4 since no information beyond statistics and coordinates has been shown to exist. –dlthewave ☎ 02:41, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom --Devokewater @  15:54, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose For your kind information this is not a bullshit article with bulshilt sources. How do you use this language for a person who is wondering to the Himalaya for last 40 yrs and have passion for Google Earth. The procedure to search in Alpine journal is click the button 'Start new search' and then click 'within mountain groups', then you should know in which mountain range it lies! In this case it was in 'Nanda devi group southern' that's '45' in Number. Pls .tik the check box then click query. Hope you will get the detail 'bullshit' as per you.--Goutam1962 (talk) 16:18, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Agree with 's assessment. The existing sources hardly contain any additional information and facts other than stats. Well spotted . Kindly disagree with in that I've yet to see any evidence for non-goodfaith, until then, I assume it's a good-faith edit. Author please don't feel bad, find sources to defend it and convince us, or find other mountains to add. Keep it up.  xinbenlv  Talk, Remember to "ping" me 17:52, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
 * For your information www.alpine-club.org.uk they are the highest authority in mountaineering field. And for your knowledge Bullshits are very useful things they are source of fertiliser and in mountain people collect it burn it as source of energy so don't under estimate "Bullshit". The highest point in europe is 5642 metre and in north america its 6193 metre and here we are talking about 6538 metre. --Goutam1962 (talk) 18:31, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Goutam, as I've pointed out on your talk page, please don't take this personally. You have really done some fabulous work! But for any mountain or peak to be included here, we need to know more than just its coordinates and a "name" that any climbing party, in search of virgin peaks, might have given it. You will need to find significant (or at least decent) coverage for all your future articles, and not copy a well-worn template across all your articles, like sections on Glaciers and nearby peaks etc. You're clearly capable and can be prodigiously productive, so please don't waste that energy in documenting every corner of Garhwal or Kumaon. If it is really notable, in time it will get created, as mountaineering literature takes heed (and not just entries by ambitious climbers in search of virgin peaks) and it gets more mention. Good luck! MaysinFourty (talk) 07:34, 24 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete Fails WP:GNG and WP:GEOLAND as there is no WP:SIGCOV of this topic whatsoever. Given that this topic's best source is two near identical lines in an obscure data list on a climbing fan club website, with a slightly different height, and on a page the article doesn't actually link to, a redirect would be pointless. Newshunter12 (talk) 04:42, 30 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment @MaysinFourty You'll have to copy and paste the url into your browser, but here is a link to this mountain: http://www.alpine-club.org.uk/hi/screen2c_2.php?s=0&np=5&ri=&cond= regnumber=43 or regnumber=44 or regnumber=45&sig=cb3c9b9982486038ed7f9d17d134571d It's obscure, but Cream Roll, also known as "P 6538" is a real mountain. I apologize for being unable to make the link appear cleanly. Newshunter12 (talk) 04:42, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, found it. Still, that's about the only mention there is MaysinFourty (talk) 09:44, 30 July 2020 (UTC)


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