Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Crestwood Medical Center


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Huntsville, Alabama. Missvain (talk) 02:39, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Crestwood Medical Center

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This article is about a rather small hospital and it the only references in it primary. I could not find anything about it in a WP:BEFORE except for name drops in hospital directories and the usual trivial mentions in articles about COVID-19 that all local hospitals seem to be getting right now. So, this doesn't pass either WP:GNG or WP:NORG due to lacking multiple in-depth reliable sources about it. Aside from that, according to some people the notability threshold for hospitals is 500 beds. Which this doesn't meet either. So, it fails all the standards for notability. Even the non-guideline based ones. --Adamant1 (talk) 12:07, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Alabama-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone  12:20, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone  12:21, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Medicine-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone  12:21, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

This hospital has a trauma center and is a notable regional hospital. Research needs to be done to find the sourcing in local and state references before deleting it. See the revised Hospital notability guidelines in the Project Tutorial page. WP:HOS -- Talk to G Moore 15:02, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
 * You must have missed the part where I said I did research and wasn't able to find sources. Your free to look for any between now and when this is closed, but if none that meet WP:GNG or WP:ORGCRIT can be found by then it will likely be deleted. --Adamant1 (talk) 15:57, 23 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete: There is not WP:SIGCOV from WP:IS WP:RS addressing the subject directly and in depth. Article does not meet WP:GNG or WP:ORGCRIT and does not meet the criteria for hospitals at WP:HOS essay (which states the article must be ORGCRIT). Two sources in article are 1) to the login page of the American Hospital Association, but from the URL appears to be a database entry; 2) a 404 page on the subject website. There is routine, mill, local coverage, nothing that meets guidelines for hospital notability.   // Timothy ::  talk  15:06, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge some content to Huntsville, Alabama, unless additional references supporting notability can be added (ideally during this discussion). It seems appropriate and necessary to consider Alternatives to deletion here (see WP:IGNORINGATD). The hospital notability guidelines notes "hospitals that do not meet all parts of this standard do not qualify for a stand-alone article, and should instead be described in the country/state list of hospitals and in a section on healthcare or emergency services in their hometown articles or parent organization, with suitable redirects from the hospital's name." A redirect under the hospital name will serve to bring readers to basic information about the hospital, whereas deletion is an unnecessary overreaction to apparently insufficient notability. Mdewman6 (talk) 22:26, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
 * IMO, and I think its shared by other people, merges are usually only good when there is reliable secondary sources but just not enough to show notability. Which isn't met in this case. Id be fine a redirect though. Otherwise, if you merged badly sourced material you'd just be making the target article less encyclopedic. Adamant1 (talk) 01:30, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 22:19, 4 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge into the article about Huntsville in support of Mdewman6's vote above. This article has some good details but is short enough not to clutter up the larger Huntsville article. If a couple of better sources could be added, that would certainly help.--Concertmusic (talk) 14:19, 10 December 2020 (UTC)


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