Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Crime in St. Louis


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__, with no consensus to redirect at this time. This potential redirect can be explored via talk page discussion, potentially after some significant improvements are considered for the article as per comments in this debate. Daniel (talk) 00:58, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

Crime in St. Louis

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This article is redundant with the crime section on the main St. Louis page. I think anything that could be included here should just be put on that page. Additionally, this article appears to be not nearly as kept up with as the main page (leading someone visiting this article to be misled with old information). This article is generally of low quality and not even really written in the right tone. Damiens the Regicide (talk) 21:15, 1 December 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:16, 8 December 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 17:05, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Crime, Police, Politics, Social science,  and Missouri. Damiens the Regicide (talk) 21:15, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment The article appears to show notability with St. Louis commonly ranked as one of the most dangerous cities. AfD is not cleanup. Conyo14 (talk) 21:32, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete and redirect A confusing article that mish-mashes data for both St. Louis City and St. Louis County, Missouri unreasonably into one article, and poorly with out-of-date data and jargon (if I'm not going to look up the meaning of "index crime" the average reader isn't going to do it either, not to mention the article it's linked to is barely sourced). This should solely cover St. Louis City, and a redirect to St. Louis is highly suggested here as that seems to be much more up-to-date and focused, along with being less prone to edit warring, than this article.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 21:42, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep and Tag for improvements. There was no discussion on the article talk page for six years before this nomination for deletion, so Alternatives to Deletion such as improvement have not been considered yet.  Robert McClenon (talk) 08:20, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect to St. Louis. Don't have to create a new page for crime in every region unless it is a significant issue. Raymond3023 (talk) 08:44, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep and Tag, aggreeing with Robert McClenon, As pointed out by Conyo14 crime, and its coverage, is significant in St. Louis. Frigyes06 (talk) 17:43, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep and improve. There is certainly no prohibition against having an article on crime in a specific city (e.g. Crime in New York City, Crime in Hong Kong), and there is no reason we couldn't have Crime in Davenport if there were sufficient sources to support encyclopedic notability. BD2412  T 01:38, 16 December 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.