Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Criminal procedure in California


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. But cleanup is still needed; most everything is sourced to statutes, i.e., primary sources.  Sandstein  06:41, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Criminal procedure in California

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Totally uncited. Delete as per WP:OR.  Onel 5969  TT me 02:00, 12 May 2018 (UTC)


 * I'll cite everything before the end of the weekend. --Hh73wiki (talk) 02:05, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Greetings. If you do, you might want to provide also evidence of the subject's Wikinotability per the relevant criteria. -The Gnome (talk) 17:18, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. The Mighty Glen (talk) 10:41, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Law-related deletion discussions. The Mighty Glen (talk) 10:41, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. The Mighty Glen (talk) 10:41, 12 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete this long, well formed essay about a subject whose notability is entirely unsupported by sources. -The Gnome (talk) 17:18, 12 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep Per WP:V, only quotations and controversial material requires citations. The topic is clearly not original because there are entire books  written about it; a selection follows.  Please see WP:BEFORE, WP:BITE, WP:ATD, WP:PRESERVE. Andrew D. (talk) 20:49, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Guide to Criminal Procedure for California
 * California Criminal Procedure
 * California Criminal Law Procedure and Practice
 * Levenson on California Criminal Procedure
 * Criminal Procedures in California
 * California Criminal Law Procedure and Practice
 * California Criminal Law and Procedure
 * California Criminal Procedure Workbook


 * Keep No source provided does not equal WP:OR. Notability is not determined by the absence of sources in the article, but by their absence in a search per WP:NEXIST. A quick look in Google Books clearly shows many sources -, the subject is therefore notable. The question is therefore if it is OR, and there is no indication that it is by a quick glance at some of the sites in a search , and it has not been shown to be be so. It is possible there may be omissions and errors when examined closely, but these can be fixed if present. Hzh (talk) 12:11, 13 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep Goes without saying the topic is notable. I included some sources from legal sites and California pretrial procedures as an external link Freetheangels (talk) 00:59, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I have added the vast majority of citations that were missing. As an aside regarding notability, there are 1.2 million arrests made every year in California. Hh73wiki (talk) 07:15, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Strong keep. This topic is clearly notable. California has the largest judiciary in the United States, and as others have mentioned, many books have been written on this topic. A need for improvement is not the same as a need for deletion. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 07:04, 17 May 2018 (UTC)


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