Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cris Owen


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Everything but the nomination and Phil Bridger's contributions is too confused for me to take into account in closing this discussion.  Sandstein  18:51, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Cris Owen

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2nd place winner of the 1989 Eurovision Song Contest. No notability can be established beyond that. See this Google search for one attempt. And a search for info on the song he supposedly wrote. The book "My Life, A Lie" is in Swedish, but doesn't make him notable. This person does not meet WP:N on any level. SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 05:27, 5 November 2008 (UTC) - Note the following was an edit *of* my comments, rather than an addition *to* them. I've left the users comments as they wrote them, but returned my original above this line - 2nd place winner of the 1989 Eurovision Song Contest. No notability can be established beyond that. ...No notability can be established haha,- sorry, but ohyes, 1000 of them.

See this Google search for one attempt.Yes I did and found the song emediately on YouTube...and?

And a search for info on the song he supposedly wrote. Did that and found emediately on Eurovison page...and?

The book "My Life, A Lie" is in Swedish, ( NO, it's in Finnish) but doesn't make him notable. This person does not meet WP:N on any level. SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 05:27, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
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 * Delete. If he had come second at the 1989 Eurovision Song Contest that would have made him notable under WP:MUSIC criterion 9, but he didn't. According to Youtube he came second in the competition to represent Finland, not the contest itself. I can't find any other evidence of notability. Phil Bridger (talk) 17:48, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

No one, not even the record compnay knew that Miisa wasn't the singer when signed to Us label. That makes Cris Owen as notable as Frank. I don't know who started this article but it is far from complete. Cris Owen write songs to both Britney, Madonna,Kylie and many many more but always under fig names. Cris belonged to the "foxroxies" as they were called in Sweden. A finger in every project around. Maybe he/she doesnt want this kind of publicity. Why don't you write and ask him.
 * Comment If to delete this producer then Frank Farian should also be deleted.


 * Comment. Some of what appears to be part of the nominator's opening statement was actually added by User:Ressu ka, i.e. the comments, "...No notability can be established haha,- sorry, but ohyes, 1000 of them.", "Yes I did and found the song emediately on YouTube...and?" and " Did that and found emediately on Eurovison page...and?". I would also point out that User:Djunijam removed the word "Delete" from my previous comment. Phil Bridger (talk) 20:23, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

I didn't delete or remove anything on purpose.But reading your comment - so what if Ressuka wrote some comments before actually log in. Maybe he's young and and frustrated. And it is difficult when not using your own mother tongue. My opinion in common when it comes to delete pages and determine whos notable and whos not shrinks the whole idea of Wiki. Thou I'm Swedish I use the english version of Wiki and I dont' think I'm the only one. Also deleting pages of different kind of pepole and celebs i general I think is bad. Isn't it interesting to get information and maybe find people or things you wouldnt come across otherwise? I spent most of the night for fun going thru Scandinavian people on the english Wiki. Some hot some not. But since the subject is how notable you have to be to occur on the english Wiki theres' gonna be a whole lot of removing pages if you start with this one. --Djunijam (talk) 09:31, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * CommentDjunijam (talk) 09:31, 7 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment Not delete!

Maybe not so famous in Ameica.But he is one of the most famous people in Finland. Ofcourse not delete!


 * Comment I'm so sorry for accidentally removong or deleting your comments or whatever important notice you gave. try to have a good night sleep anyway!ressu —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ressu ka (talk • contribs) 21:12, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

maybe you shouldn'tbe sucha crybaby!!! i've donated lots of money to wiki. but no f' more! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ressu ka (talk • contribs) 21:20, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Oh it wasn't me, it was somebody else.people do make mistakes.


 * CommentNotable? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janina_Frostell


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