Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Crisis in the Strait of Hormuz


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The result was   speedy Article already deleted. Article deleted under WP:A10 (non-admin closure) Basa lisk  inspect damage⁄berate 23:17, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Crisis in the Strait of Hormuz

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The Strait of Hormuz has not actually been closed. There is no "crisis". Basa lisk inspect damage⁄berate 21:52, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOTNEWSPAPER. The U.S. and Iran growling at each other is not noteworthy (or unusual) ... until they start shooting. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:00, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep A crisis does not require "shooting" - there is such thing as a diplomatic crisis. No Hormuz has not yet been closed yet, but Iran has declared that it will should threatened Western sanctions led by the US be imposed. Iran has undertaken controversial naval military exercises near Hormuz that have been deemed provocative by the United States. There have been reports that US military forces are mobilizing to proceed in activity in the Persian Gulf area in relation to the escalating crisis over Hormuz. This is a crisis in the sense of the Sudeten Crisis (I am not using the Suddeten crisis to make comparisons with Nazi Germany, but for comparison of the two crises involving threats of action) in that crisis, there was a threat of military action by Germany against Czechoslovakia and a corresponding threat of military action by Britain and France against Germany. As of yet there is no military action has yet happened but there is an open statement by Iran that it intends to blockade the Strait of Hormuz should the U.S. and the West press for sanctions on Iran, and the US has in turn stated that it will not tolerate Iran closing the Hormuz. It is a major diplomatic crisis that is being addressed in the UN Security Council - major permanent members of the Council have made public statements on the matter. NOTE: without Wikipedia's inclusion, there are over 200,000 search hits on Google for "crisis in the Strait of Hormuz".--R-41 (talk) 22:05, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete as nom – calling this a crisis is like characterising the likelihood of India retaliating in kind to a Pakistani nuclear attack as the "Nuclear crisis in the Indian subcontinent". Nothing has actually happened; this isn't even an event. Just because x says they'll do y if a does b, this does not make a crisis. Basa lisk  inspect damage⁄berate 22:15, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
 * As I said, this is quickly evolving into a crisis, and there are over 200,000 hits (excluding Wikipedia) for "crisis in the Strait of Hormuz" - US, British, French, and surprisingly Russian naval forces have assembled in the Persian Gulf, Russia is supporting Western opposition to Iran's threat. China has responded to the crisis saying that it is urging calm over the issue of Hormuz and wants the Strait to remain open. Major governments have public statements and actions in response to Iran's threat to close Hormuz. The UK, USA, France Russia, and China are all taking an active role in this crisis, and all are permanent members of the United Nations Security Council. If you prefer to call it a "dispute" rather than a crisis, that may be acceptable, but it is a serious real event that is happening.--R-41 (talk) 22:32, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Seems like an Iranian gambit to test U.S. resolve following the Iraq withdrawal. But until shots are fired, at best this can be described as a diplomatic incident or sabre rattling. Regards, RJH (talk) 22:47, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I have renamed the article "Strait of Hormuz dispute" in response to concerns that the term "crisis" is too strong. It is an international relations dispute between Iran and the US and other countries - Iran claims it has the right to close of the Hormuz, the US and other countries, such as Saudi Arabia and other Arab states claim Iran does not have the right to close the Hormuz. It is a significant issue that is being addressed by multiple major governments including Iran itself that has brought forth the issue of closing the Hormuz, the US, China, Russia, the UK, several Arab states and other major countries. Is the article acceptable with this new title?--R-41 (talk) 22:52, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
 * As I've pointed out on my talk page, this isn't about use of the word "crisis" – the event itself is not discreetly notable. Also, the article Iran-United States relations already has a section on this event, and so I'm tagging this article under CSD:A10. Basa lisk  inspect damage⁄berate 23:07, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
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