Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cristian Favela


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. (WP:NPASR) (non-admin closure)  Rcsprinter123    (confabulate)  @ 15:11, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

Cristian Favela

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 * This page was prodded, but the prodding process got messed up. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 11:21, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
 * The original PROD was for Not notable. WP:BLP1E.Peter Rehse (talk) 11:33, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. Peter Rehse (talk) 11:30, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. NorthAmerica1000 05:37, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Mexico-related deletion discussions. NorthAmerica1000 05:37, 25 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Weak Delete Another case of someone technically meeting NBOX by winning one of the many non-world titles of the WBC, but there's no significant independent coverage and a career record of 37 wins in 75 fights doesn't make a good case for notability.Mdtemp (talk) 18:26, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 01:39, 1 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep - Professional athletes are kept by consensus at WP. Having won a title would seem to pretty much seal it. Won-loss record is irrelevant. Carrite (talk) 23:21, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Not sure what you mean by that but just being a professional athlete does not mean the article is kept. WP:NSPORTS and in this case WP:NBOX indicate presumption.  The article does not meet WP:GNG.Peter Rehse (talk) 23:42, 3 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Weak Delete Don't know much about the boxing business, but based on my google search he doesn't meet WP:GNG and that's the prime indicator of notability. 131.118.229.17 (talk) 19:34, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete I found no significant independent coverage, although I did find lots of results reporting on his many fights. I also found a wide range of fight records for him, ranging from boxrec (the one Mdtemp mentioned) to this, which put his record at 19 wins in 58 fights.  The title he won was minor. Papaursa (talk) 23:57, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep. The IBA world title and WBO inter-continental titles that he fought for and the WBC title that he won may not be the most prestigious titles but they are significant enough to indicate notability. --Michig (talk) 08:01, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
 * It's hard for me to believe than someone who won less than half of his fights could have fought for any truly notable titles. If you can show me some significant independent coverage (not just fight announcements and results), I am more than willing to change my vote. Papaursa (talk) 16:42, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
 * He only lost one of his first 20 fights and then won the WBC title and lost the WBO challenge (to a fighter who had a whole load of title fights). If he'd stopped there he would have had great win to lose ratio. Lots of fighters carry on past their best and end up losing a lot of fights later in their career. Looking at their overall career and saying they're not notable because they lost half their fights makes no sense. --Michig (talk) 17:56, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Lots of fighters pad their records with unverified fights and/or fights against human punching bags. Titles that aren't contested for several years or aren't defended (instead 2 new fighters are given a shot) do not impress me.  I agree he meets WP:NBOX, but that is a presumption and not a guarantee of notability.  Granted, I usually go along with the presumption, but are you saying you can't find any significant coverage of him?  I didn't think I was asking for much. Papaursa (talk) 18:03, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Given that he is a Mexican boxer, I would expect to find coverage in Mexican news sources and boxing publications, much of which is probably not available online. --Michig (talk) 20:59, 9 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty (talk) 11:32, 9 November 2014 (UTC)


 * This is still a BLP with no significant coverage.Mdtemp (talk) 19:18, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
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