Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cristian Ramírez


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The result was   keep. Consensus is that he scrapes by. Kubigula (talk) 00:01, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Cristian Ramírez

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Recreation of an article previously deleted by PROD. Concern was Article about a footballer who fails WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league. This remains valid. Sir Sputnik (talk) 19:05, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Sir Sputnik (talk) 19:06, 9 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment: Are we sure that it does not pass GNG? It looks like it does. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 19:50, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Of the eleven sources listed only one is not obviously routine. The first one is a player profile, nine of the ten others are routine transfer news. Sir Sputnik (talk) 20:00, 9 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment. In addition to all the coverage, the article says he's made 52 appearances for Independiente José Terán of Ecuadorian Serie A, the top league in Ecuador; while Ecuador is not listed at WikiProject Football/Fully professional leagues, I find no record of a discussion of this omission, and the article about the league says that it's one of the dozen or so most highly ranked leagues in the world. --Arxiloxos (talk) 21:50, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep - just about scrapes through GNG in current state, and as has made 52 appearances in the Ecuadorian Serie A, I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt and assume there's more out there. Unsure if the Ecuadorian Serie A is fully-pro or not but that doesn't matter as GNG is met. GiantSnowman 23:29, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep Seems to pass GNG, still young sounds like a player to watch in the future. Govvy (talk) 21:18, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep - appears to satisfy the GNG. Jogurney (talk) 14:52, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete: Fails GNG. If you look into the references you will see that most of them (if not all) link to an article about his transfer. Plus the references are sourcing 2 facts pratically. He also fails NFOOTY. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 15:19, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
 * The Extra.ec article is certainly significant coverage - describing his youth career, performance at the U-17 World Cup and in Ecuador's Serie A. It also mentions his trial with Dortmund, but it is hardly fair to say it is about his transfer. The other sources are a mix, but at least one other appears significant. Jogurney (talk) 15:52, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
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 * Keep Article is well sourced with reliable third party references from numerous countries. Granted this is not the most notable footballer in the world, but he seems to have done enough to pass GNG. Fenix down (talk) 09:27, 16 February 2013 (UTC)


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