Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cristian Spetcu


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The result was delete. fails WP:GNG, and I assume the WP:KICK people know what they're talking about when they say that being the SUPERKOMBAT champion does not suffice. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 06:19, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

Cristian Spetcu

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Non-notable kickboxer - does not meet WP:KICK Peter Rehse (talk) 16:58, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
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 * Delete does not meet the notability guidelines for kickboxers.John Pack Lambert (talk) 01:03, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep He fought for the WAKO championship, and is current SUPERKOMBAT lightweight champion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.239.180.163 (talk) 14:25, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
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 * His WAKO silver medal was in an amateur event, which is not considered to show notability, nor is being SUPERKOMBAT champion currently considered sufficient. Papaursa (talk) 03:18, 22 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep With all due respect, I already talked with Peter Rehse about changing the kickboxing rules and he is not allowing me or anyone to do it. I registered now to tell him and you. Many users reported that this is wrong. Superkombat Fighting Championship is probably the largest kickboxing promotion in Europe. Our mate Peter is confusing kickboxing with boxing. ISKA, WAKO-Pro, WKN and PKA are not like WBC, WBA, IBF and WBO in boxing. Sometimes, you can be 100th in the world and to hold an ISKA title. The major promotions in kickboxing created own titles, such as Glory, K-1, Superkombat and others. ISKA, WKN and WAKO-Pro are usually giving their titles in minor promotions of kickboxing. They are like bodies, but in kickboxing the promotions are not obliged to use them as titles. Kickboxing promotions are like UFC, Bellator and others of MMA. Do you understand that or not? Right now Superkombat Fighting Championship is the only European promotion that is available since 2017 in the United States of America with a CBS contract. Peter Rehse, please understand we need to change them, the rules should also include Superkombat Fighting Championship and Kunlun Fight (the largest promotions in Europe, respectively Asia). Do you help, Peter? Because there are no users anymore that usually participate on the Kickboxing Project of Wikipedia. So Cristian Spetcu is notable, all the champions of Superkombat are solid. It is pathetic for instance to have a bum holding an ISKA/WKN/WAKO-Pro title instead of a Superkombat/Kunlun champion. Do you want to give you examples? Lukasz Plawecki and Pawel Jedrzejczyk, newly created pages. They both fought in Glory at the last event Glory 38: Chicago on the undercard but really bad. They would probably never hold a title in Kunlun, and even Superkombat. You need to understand that things changed since many years ago when Wikipedia had a lot of kickboxing fans as users, and promotions like Superkombat and Kunlun Fight grew up. They are highly comparable with current K-1. At the moment, in the US we have Glory, Bellator Kickboxing and Superkombat (broadcasting contracts). And Kunlun Fight is almost investing as much as Glory, in Asia. -hooyoo- (talk) 00:25, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
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 * Spectu is not ranked in the top 10 by either LiverKick or CombatPress (that would meet WP:KICK if he did) which is telling with regards to titles..Peter Rehse (talk) 08:25, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
 * There are kickboxers ranked 60th in the world that fought for ISKA, WKN or WAKO-Pro that are allowed to have pages (even 300th in the world). Spetcu is not top 10 but some other SUPERKOMBAT champions were (Londt, Zhuravlev, Adegbuyi, Stoica brothers and more). It's more important to hold a SUPERKOMBAT title than fighting for less major titles such as ISKA, WKN and WAKO-Pro. We are telling you all to edit the kickboxing rules, and to add also SUPERKOMBAT and Kunlun. Moreover usually those from top 10 belong to GLORY, it's harder to penetrate. But holding the most important titles in Europe and Asia isn't notable enough? ISKA, WKN, and WAKO-Pro are just shit. They are not promotions, they are giving titles in promotions in Zaire, Slovenia or Bosnia.
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kurykh (talk) 00:29, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete There is insufficient coverage to show he meets WP:GNG and he also fails to meet the notability criteria for kickboxers. WP:ILIKEIT and WP:IDONOTLIKETHECURRENTCRITERIA are not good enough reasons to keep this article.  The current list of organizations was arrived at through long and sometimes contentious discussions and should not be changed capriciously. Papaursa (talk) 00:00, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Weak keep Because Superkombat Fighting Championship got nominated for the Best Kickoxing Promotion In The World in 2016 (with K-1 which won, GLORY or Kunlun Fight). I suppose that the Superkombat championships must be included as notable. Please fix this. Spetcu is current lightweight champion of the promotion. Setdany (talk) 01:00, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - simply does not meet WP:GNG.  Onel 5969  TT me 02:54, 23 March 2017 (UTC)


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