Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Criticism of Vladimir Putin (3rd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. -- Cirt (talk) 19:57, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Criticism of Vladimir Putin
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This is essentially a WP:POVFORK involving a living person. Our WP:BLP policy expressly puts restrictions Criticism sections and discourages giving them "disproportionate space" this article does just that and violates the spirit of BLP. The Resident Anthropologist (talk)•(contribs) 19:07, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is indeed a POV fork and probably a violation of BLP policy. Unfortunately, the articles relating to Putin and his policies as president are in a pretty bad state. Description, praise and criticism should all be together in the same article (or articles), and care must be taken not to give undue weight to any of these. Sometime in the future, I will do substantial work on related articles (perhaps creating Policies of Vladimir Putin or something.) In any case, "criticism" should not, and will not, have a separate article, because that gives it disproportionate space. Nanobear (talk) 19:49, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Strong delete Regardless of the WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS argument that is going to come up, this article is a gross violation of both WP:BLP and WP:NPOV. It is absolutely correct that some of this material should exist, but where? In the main articles for a start, where much of this information is already present. Not in articles such as this, which are magnets for the loon WP:FRINGE type views that often create a situation which is breaching WP:BLP. Take for example, Criticism_of_Vladimir_Putin, which is presented in such a way to try and prove the guilt of Putin of muzzling reporters, and then ordering assassinations on those who won't be muzzled. Well what would one expect when the article is essentially from the POV of the Berezovsky crowd? All criticism belongs in relevant articles, not in coatrack articles such as this. --Russavia I'm chanting as we speak 19:53, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete Inherently one-sided and so contrary to core policy. Colonel Warden (talk) 06:32, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. It doesn't matter what the article says, it only matters who votes in the AfD. Tijfo098 (talk) 08:17, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Russia-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 12:22, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
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 * Delete. While it is possible (although not easy) to write a neutral and encyclopedic article under this title, at present this is nothing but a cherry-picked collection of factoids many of which are already covered in the main article anyway. It's also interesting to note that many of other similar articles mentioned in the first nom are now redirects, or have been deleted, or are going through an AfD right now. Let's do the right thing and put this "article" out of its misery. Don't worry, Putin will still remain the monster he is :)—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); May 18, 2011; 13:17 (UTC)
 * Delete not a fan of Putin. But fair criticism should be presented in context with other facts. Creating a page completely devoted to criticism is WP:UNDUE weight and a violation of WP:NPOV. There should be a guideline that provides limits or even exclusions on "criticism of..." articles. Shooterwalker (talk) 00:45, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. & others. The article runs afoul of WP:NPOV, WP:POVFORK, WP:BLP, & WP:UNDUE.--JayJasper (talk) 19:02, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep It is impossible to interpret this AfD nomination as anything but a cynical attempt to censor criticism of Vladimir Putin.  Deterence  Talk 03:14, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
 * LOL ok I nominated "Criticism of" article for Noam Chomsky, Tony Blair and Harry Reid. If you can find an Agenda other than WP:BLP in that  I would like to hear it?  The Resident Anthropologist (talk)•(contribs) 20:05, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - as per the nom and BLP recommends against it. Off2riorob (talk) 13:45, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.