Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Croatian–Ottoman Wars


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. Editors are also requested to keep the snarky and sarcastic remarks to a minimum, or better yet, not make them at all. Lankiveil (speak to me) 10:01, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Croatian–Ottoman Wars

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This article is content fork of Ottoman–Hungarian Wars and Ottoman–Habsburg wars and should be deleted as such, against criteria number 5 of WP:DEL-REASON. Antidiskriminator (talk) 15:13, 5 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete, but keep any new content and add it to the "forked" pages. Old Al (Talk) 15:52, 5 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete I agree with AD and Old Al. 23 editor (talk) 21:07, 5 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep.Presently the article seems to be a duplication of the Austria-Ottoman wars. But it can be expanded to concentrate on the Croatian theater of wars. Thus instead of deletion, it should be tagged for expansion. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 11:19, 6 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep for reasons stated by Nedim Ardoga. Orser67 (talk) 15:25, 6 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 00:16, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 00:16, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Croatia-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 00:16, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Turkey-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 00:16, 6 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Given so little content, this is hardly a content fork, rather it's a somewhat strangely named history article with insufficient content and context. The history of Croatia series is currently split in ~1526, but this article would easily fit into that context given a bit of expansion - the Ottoman wars were the single most significant thing that happened to the Croatian lands between the 1400s and and the 1700s. There's a fair bit of WP:POTENTIAL here, so weak keep. --Joy &#91;shallot&#93; (talk) 19:04, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete -- Croatia was a province of Hungary (or possibly Austria), not a separate country. What we have here is little more than a list of wars, most of which refer to Hungary, not Croatia.  Peterkingiron (talk) 18:03, 10 March 2014 (UTC)


 * No, Croatia was very much a country during this time, it was simply not a sovereign state. And there's no "possibly" with regard to Austria - the succession of suzerainty to Austria is well documented (a formal election was held in 1527, even). Peter, you seem to have a propensity for making factual errors with regard to these topics, I've had to correct you in several of these XfD discussions as of late. Please get up to speed, because this is distracting and not at all conducive to a healthy deletion debate. --Joy &#91;shallot&#93; (talk) 17:11, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.