Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Crocker Highlands, Oakland, California


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Keep, nomination withdrawn. Davewild (talk) 09:08, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Crocker Highlands, Oakland, California

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Not notable, completely unreferenced CholgatalK! 09:39, 29 February 2008 (UTC)-convinced to not deleteCholgatalK! 21:00, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - Google news archive search shows 3200 results for "Crocker Highland," the vast majority about the article's subject. It is not required to actually have the references purchased through the paywall and used to improve the article ffor it to be kept. We only have to know that the subject is WP:V verifiable if it is a geographic feature, town, hamlet,or neighborhood, per the outcome of numerous prior AFDs. If multiple reliable and independent sources have substantial coverage of the neighborhood, that is even more rationale for keeping the article, by clearly satisfying WP:N. The caution in "neighborhood" articles would be if the term is not widely used in the media, guidebooks, etc, and is just something coined in the 'hood one day which hasn't yet caught on. That seems not to be the case here. (1999) has two paragraphs about homes in Crocker Highlands.  (2000) has substantial discussion of real estate in Crocker Highlands. Oakland Tribune, (May 13, 1919) from the Google News search says "If you are planning to some day live in Crocker Highlands by all means see us AT ONCE and get first choice, because the very lot you want might be the first ..." and shows the neighborhood has been in the news for many decades. Please do at least the minimal research of a Google News archive search before nominating an article as "not notable". The absence of references does not mean unreferenceable or non-notable. This whole flock of nominations of neighborhoods appears ill-founded and premature. Edison (talk) 16:41, 29 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep - The status of numerous Oakland neighborhoods is currently a hot topic around here, with many articles on them proposed for deletion. As I've stated on a number of those articles' talk pages, I have proposed a guide to whether a neighborhood article should be included here or not. It's a web page maintained by the Oakland Museum of California which shows districts and neighborhoods in the city. Since this tool has been created by an official local institution that is credible, I believe it can serve as at least a starting point to determine inclusion. So far as Crocker Highlands goes, it's one of the neighborhoods shown in the maps there, so that's a pretty good argument for its inclusion.
 * I'd also like to point out that this proposal for deletion comes from an editor currently under investigation for major sockpuppetry, and that this nomination was probably tit-for-tat retaliation on account of the many worthless articles created by, or contributed to, by this editor which have been deleted. (I was the one who created this article.) +ILike2BeAnonymous (talk) 18:18, 29 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep. Notable.  Wikidemo (talk) 19:11, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep per ILike2BeAnonymous's convincing reasoning. TerriersFan (talk) 20:55, 29 February 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.