Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Crown the Empire


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Fails WP:MUSIC per consensus (✉→BWilkins←✎) 15:24, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Crown the Empire

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Band does not meet notability guidelines at WP:BAND. Given sources are just simple announcements. Nothing on google to establish notability. noq (talk) 19:04, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete Found this during NPP and was about to nuke it. Badly fails WP:BAND as far as I can tell. § FreeRangeFrog
 * Weak Delete / Redirect - I believe the band does meet notability as a band as they have released two or more albums under a major record label. However, they still need to have the sources to back it up. No sources, no notability. There are many trivial mentions but unfortunately they will not count towards notability. An alternative would be to redirect to Rise Records until there are reliable sources (assuming that they will be covered by reliable and independent sources in the future) at which time the article could be recreated. --UsedEdgesII (talk) 20:50, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment They have to date released one EP and no albums - an album is planned but has not been released. The complete lack of substantial coverage also shows it as not notable. noq (talk) 00:50, 9 November 2012 (UTC) Note also UsedEdgesII has been blocked as a sockpuppet. noq (talk) 00:51, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Blocked sockpuppet. MER-C 13:16, 9 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete Per nomination. BeyondKneesReach (talk) 00:45, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:24, 9 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep/Edit: The page provides the references needed to be an article. I do, however, feel that the formatting is atrocious, and needs to be edited heavily. XyphynX9 (talk) 18:16, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep: It hits the wickets for notability. They have been covered in Alt Press(One of the more subscribed to scene magazines) numerous times. Have released a single and are less than a week from releasing a full length CD. http://www.altpress.com/search/results/?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lijit.com%2Fusers%2Faltpress&start_time=1352869578821&p=g&blog_uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.altpress.com%2F&blog_platform=&view_id=&link_id=61258&flavor=&q=crown+the+empire&lijit_q=crown+the+empire Mariolennox (talk) 05:09, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment The altpress coverage is merely of announcements by the band - no significant coverage. noq (talk) 16:55, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Reply to Comment http://www.underthegunreview.net/2011/12/07/review-crown-the-empire-limitless/ Here's an Under the Gun Review then. You may may not like them but they've got a big enough following on Facebook (which is where most bands live now a days) and they've got enough reviews and press to justify keeping them. Besides 1/2 the news that exists now-a-days is 140 characters or less.Mariolennox (talk) 22:31, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment Facebook and twitter are not news. And under the gun review does not seem to be a very widely respected blog, there is little on google about them other than social media sites. Wikipedia does not regard social media as reliable sources to establish notability. noq (talk) 00:51, 15 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete per nomination. No significant coverage in independent reliable sources. I stress all three adjectives in the previous sentence. --Bejnar (talk) 11:45, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.