Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cruise Ship Tycoon


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The result was delete. Lankiveil (speak to me) 10:14, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

Cruise Ship Tycoon

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Can't find any reliable sources covering this game. Sam Walton (talk) 11:42, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
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 * Comment. Most of the hits in a WP:VG/RS Google CSE search come up with database entries, but I found these:  from GameSpot and  from GamersHell.com.  There's also  from Game-Over.com, which Metacritic indexed, but I'm not quite sure I consider it a reliable source.  I'm curious what other people think of it. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 12:41, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I hadn't found the GameSpot review, which is good. No opinion on the Game-Over review, but while we have GamersHell listed at VG/RS, I can't see that any of the 3 discussions there actually concluded that it was reliable. Given that along with the 'review' being pretty poorly written, I discounted it as reliable source coverage. Going to start a separate discussion about GH as an RS though. Sam Walton (talk) 12:52, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
 * In fact there was a discussion recently where it seemed GH was deemed unreliable. Sam Walton (talk) 12:53, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Really? I missed that.  I thought they were OK-ish.  You've got a point, though.  I didn't read the review very closely, and it does seem a big bloggish. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 13:33, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. Article topic lacks significant coverage from reliable, independent sources. (?) As for whether these reviews are enough—if you have any doubts, no, it's not. Game-Over has no hallmarks of editorial credibility. And I agree with the VGRS conversation that questioned GamersHell's reliability in the first place. Which leaves a GameSpot review. There is little else in a video game reliable sources custom Google search. There are no worthwhile redirect targets. If someone finds more (non-English and offline) sources, please ping me. czar  16:48, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
 * As requested. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 13:32, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as simply none of this seems like enough for a considerably better article yet. SwisterTwister   talk  20:13, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Weak delete Keep as barely not passing WP:GNG with multiple secondary in-depth reliable sources, such as WP:VG/RS. For VG/RS: GameSpot review, Absolute Games review . There's also Game World Navigator review ( I would call it reliable, though being Russian it didn't get feedback during RS discussion ). There's also Gry overview and description, which aren't great. While 2 sources is technically "multiple", there's not much in terms of WP:WAF to write about. Perhaps add info from sources to Cat Daddy Games. —  HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 13:31, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — UY Scuti Talk  16:55, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm skeptical of Absolute Games' reliability, which we've never discussed outright, so I opened a thread at WT:VG/RS. And the Gry sources—it's still unclear to me who can write that content and how much of it is recycled PR. In any event, I wouldn't use it as a marker of notability. This leaves GameSpot and Game World Navigator (and the latter is likely fine, as a print mag), and I don't see us writing an article of any substance with those two alone. In other news, isn't it curious that this American-made game has more coverage in non-English sources? Why is that? czar  17:38, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Because Russians are into RPGs, point-and-clicks, strategies and management games. Or more like they are less into Westerny genres like sports, driving, platformers, or action-adventures. Basically to do with tiny early console market and prominent PC market and pirating. So most grew up with more complex PC games. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 20:28, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   08:56, 18 January 2016 (UTC)


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