Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Crumbächer


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 01:55, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Crumbächer

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Completely fails to satisfy WP:NMUSIC, despite a large number of works. While there are a few available reviews of some of their works, there are no sources that satisfy all three of Sig Cov/Reliable & independent. No other indication that NMUSIC is satisfied via a different criterion.

Along with the Thunder Beach album, is the only one of its set of articles I felt could potentially be disputed. (The other albums have been redirected for now) Nosebagbear (talk) 22:02, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka (talk) 22:12, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka (talk) 22:12, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
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 * Keep Notable in early Christian new wave and Europop movement in Christian music (MUSICBIO No. 7) and released two or more albums on one of the more important indie labels: Frontline Records (MUSICBIO No. 5). You've ignore all of the reviews from AllMusic that you removed with the questionable redirects you made:   . In one of the standard reference works,, their entry is on pages 216–217. Because of the layout of the work, this amounts to almost a full page. They detail four charting singles on Christian radio, the highest being a No. 4. They also had several Christian rock radio single hits which are not covered. They also had several articles in CCM Magazine. It's harder to find this sort of information in print-only media. Walter Görlitz (talk) 22:22, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * (edit-conflict) I did indeed ignore each of those All Music reviews - after considering each of them in turn. They are nowhere near Sig Cov reviews, and they don't "stack". The only CCM Magazine articles i saw from them were interviews. Charting in a specific genre isn't sufficient. I can't talk to the book - it sounds promising, if the widder group of editors can find some details on it that would be interesting to hear. Nosebagbear (talk) 22:32, 7 January 2019 (UTC)


 * (ec) Keep The umlaut can mess up searches, but a quick Google Books search finds coverage in pp. 216-217 of Encyclopedia of Contemporary Christian Music and several pages (e.g. 123-124) in Raised by Wolves: The Story of Christian Rock & Roll, also coverage of concerts over the years in the OC Register. A niche group, so likely to have been covered in Christian press. Bakazaka (talk) 22:28, 7 January 2019 (UTC)


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