Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Crunchball 3000


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The result was   no consensus. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:24, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Crunchball 3000

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Does not pass the general notability threshold. Non-notable online free flash game. No significant coverage in third-party reliable sources. Pichpich (talk) 18:02, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep: This game is on various websites. Wikipedia contains articles about such things as tiny towns in Switzerland which no one has ever heard of, it can include something like this. As a specific example, when I hit the "Random Article" button, I got this: Emerson Orlando de Melo. Finally, it is mentioned in another article: Monkey Island (series. Ergo, it provides more information about the topic of the game, and allows people who see this and are interested to find out more about the game and maybe play it. In order to avoid any false accusations, I will state now that I am not employed by Armor Games, Free Web Arcade, etc. and won't benefit in any way from this being put up.   — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robert the Devil (talk • contribs) 21:56, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
 * What we're trying to measure is not the importance of a topic (in part because we don't even want to start debating the meaning of the word "importance"). We're trying to establish "notability" in the following sense has the topic received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject? Even the tiniest town in Switzerland has hundreds of years of thoroughly documented existence and therefore easily passes the test. Pichpich (talk) 22:29, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Have a look at the changes, but you might be right. Robert 23:23, 1 March 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robert the Devil (talk • contribs)
 * I looked at the changes, and the only references now are the four sites the game is on. And like I said, I really like the game, but no one has ever written a newspaper/magazine article or book about it. One of the criteria, as Pichpich said, is that the sources have to be independent of the topic, meaning that sites that host the game don't count. - Jorgath (talk) 00:49, 2 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete: I've played this game. It's really fun. It's well-designed. It's not notable in the slightest. - Jorgath (talk) 18:29, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 19:21, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Games-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 19:21, 1 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete No indication of notability. No references, just the site of the game itself. North8000 (talk) 22:00, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Weak keep The game was given an extensive review at Jay Is Games, a piece was written by Kieron Gillen here (both now cited in the article). There is also a squib of reception detail here on E4 (not yet cited). That's all the sources I can find after a good long search. I think it just about has enough coverage to satisfy WP:N, though not a clear keep from me because of how limited it is. Someoneanother 16:34, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:44, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Wifione  Message 07:41, 15 March 2012 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.