Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Crusaders Broadcasting System


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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:02, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Crusaders Broadcasting System

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Non-notable unreferenced radio network. I can't find any articles about it online, only business listings. Ramaksoud2000 (Talk to me) 02:09, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete No evidence of notability given or found. I did find that the Crusaders group has been around since at least the 1990s, when the permit for their station DWCD-FM was revoked. See https://web.archive.org/web/20041229151657/http://www.supremecourt.gov.ph/jurisprudence/2000/may2000/139583.htm Note that many (possibly all except for DWAD 1098) of the stations listed in this article appear to be proposed stations which are not yet on the air. For that matter, I can't even verify that 	DWAD 1098 is on the air. Their website is dead. Meters (talk) 02:43, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Article was previously deleted by User:HJ Mitchell as Crusaders Broadcasting Systems in a mass deletion of articles by sock User:John Abento . See Sockpuppet investigations/Bertrand101. I can't see if the content is the same. Meters (talk) 02:57, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
 * The form isn't the same, no, but there's little to no difference in the substance apart from more outlets being listed this time. Bearcat (talk) 17:34, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 03:12, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
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 * Delete. Radio networks are not entitled to an automatic inclusion freebie just because they exist; they must be the subject of enough reliable source coverage to demonstrate that they pass WP:NMEDIA and WP:GNG. And radio networks doubly aren't allowed to create unsourced articles about themselves, per WP:COI — I'll give them some credit for avoiding the advertorial tone that commonly infects these self-published articles, but they don't also get to avoid sourcing the article properly. I'll also note that there has been one attempt to blank the whole thing on the grounds that it's a WP:HOAX, although I don't know where to verify whether that's true or not — Meters' link above obviously shows that the company exists (or has existed in the past), but the lack of verifiability as to whether any of the individual stations listed in the article exist or not is still a problem. Bearcat (talk) 17:34, 17 December 2016 (UTC)


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