Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/CryptoHeaven (2nd nomination)


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The result was   delete. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 04:58, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

CryptoHeaven
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Non-notable software masquerading as neologism. Contested PROD stating "the article is not about any particular software application, but a generic term; the article establishes notability per WP:N listing 5 sources"

However the sources only make the very briefest mention to an "application" called "CryptoHeaven" referencing www.cryptoheaven.com, so it certainly is not a generic term. Also, the sources do not establish notability as they are technical manuals and white papers, again most only mentioning the name and website.

I can't find thrid-party sources to establish notability, google turns up many download pages etc but I didn't find any reliable articles. Pontificalibus (talk) 10:05, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - Good research by the nom. I think it's advertising masquerading as a neologism. Shadowjams (talk) 19:34, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Note - This is the second nomination for the same name. It appears from the first AfD that the previous article was written with an eye towards the company (rather than as a term). The result was delete. Shadowjams (talk) 19:35, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete I went through Pontificalibus' same process and I found, in agreement with everyone here, that (a) all references to this "term" seem to really be references to the software, and that (b) the software is probably not notable--although there are things that show up in a google news search:, they are mostly press-releases or other material originating from the company. Also, I notice many of them come from mathaba.net, and this article:  that looks like it is a news article, seems highly suspicious: "Other security analysts recommend computer users at least use secure email programs such as CryptoHeaven"... Other security analysts = who?  I would recommend a Delete or, if we were talking about the software, a weak delete and possibly a delete for that too.  Cazort (talk) 19:40, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete This article seems to be inventing the term "cryptoheaven" as all of the references only refer to a specific piece of software and not as a general term for a type of software app. Timmie.merc (talk) 06:46, 16 May 2009 (UTC)


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