Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Crystal Cavern


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis (talk) 02:16, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Crystal Cavern

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Unsourced since its creation way back in 2003, and fails WP:GNG Adam9007 (talk) 02:10, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. I added a town of Clay, Alabama government webpage source to the article.  It is a former tourist attraction and is a significant geological feature, so it is fundamentally notable.  It is verified to exist.  The fact that article has been in place since 2003 speaks to the basic accuracy....there are a number of past visitor mentions at the Talk page...nothing is disputed as far as I can tell.  It is not promotional.  The first Google hits are mirror sites of this Wikipedia article, so are not independent sources.  Since it has been closed since the 1960s we would not expect there to be wide coverage in online sources.  Since it was discovered pre-1920s and is/was a worthy natural feature, we can be reasonably sure that deadtree coverage about it exists, it is just not easily found.  Notability is not temporary.  Keep. -- do  ncr  am  02:35, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Environment-related deletion discussions. North America1000 09:23, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Alabama-related deletion discussions. North America1000 09:23, 22 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep. Article is currently significantly WP:OR but it meets WP:GEOLAND, for instance:
 * Mentioned in Encylopedia of Alabama
 * Apparently surveyed in 1924/1925
 * Described on p59 as "the poorest commercialized cave I have ever seen"
 * In the Alabama Review
 * In W.D. Johnson's (Ground Water in the Paleozoic Rocks of northern Alabama)
 * Is/was home of the McCluney Cave Cricket (Euhadenoecus insolitus)
 * Terry Ragon's map of the cavern was awarded best Short Caves and Best of Show in 2001
 * undefinedHydronium~Hydroxide~(Talk) 13:10, 22 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep passes WP:GNG. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 17:14, 26 January 2016 (UTC)


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