Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Crystal Newman


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Article speedily deleted under criterion G5. Contrary to what was said below, the creator of the article certainly had at least one account blocked, and probably more, before the creation of the article. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 15:27, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

Crystal Newman

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Fails WP:BIO. 33 edits by a Sock. 3 edits by Wikipedia editors and 12 edits by 7 SPA editors. Article was G5'd. Completely non notable. scope_creep (talk) 07:35, 9 August 2018 (UTC)


 * G5. Criteria for speedy deletion shows that an article doesnt apply for G5 speedy deletion if it was created before the ban/block or after the ban was lifted or user unblocked. The article was created June 26 2018 and the created was blocked on July 30 2018. Article doesn't fall under this criterion. Consider it please. 41.210.146.141 (talk) 08:15, 9 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep. Could you explain why this article would fail WP:BIO? The sources are all outside, seem reliable, and most of them are focused on Newman herself (non-trivial). Gilded Snail (talk) 18:39, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Kenya-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 11:45, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 11:45, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 11:45, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 11:45, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment Gilded Snail, More than 2 thirds of revisions have been created by a sock who has been indeffed, with the article up at WP:COI at the moment. Of the remaining revisions, 2 are by Wikipedia account holders on good faith, including another one when I tried to G5 it. The other 12 edits are with 8 separate SPA editors creating revisions, including removing the G5 tag, and minor edits, who are undoubtedly WP:PAID . All in all, it is complete hash of revision history, excluding the two good faith editors with one linking text, another placing/removing a tag. Personally, if the lady is notable, I think the article should be better deleted and recreated with a clean revision history. I don't think she is. I suspect she is just radio personality, is getting some coverage due to secondary notability. But if she is, I don't mind recreating it. And it will be as clean as a whistle. scope_creep (talk) 20:06, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 05:04, 16 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep. The subject is notable, has served for 18 years on radio and TV in Uganda (Oldest private owned radios are around 25 years old), and passes WP:BIO. The article is well sourced with reliable sources directly about Crystal.YaraBo (talk) 07:41, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep: counter systemic bias. Anyone from the first world with these credentials would be 100% notable. Max Semenik (talk) 07:25, 19 August 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.