Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cultural heritage in Kosovo


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. SarahStierch (talk) 07:24, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Cultural heritage in Kosovo

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The entire article is either a travel brochure feature or an in-flight magazine report aimed purely to promote the region (along the controversial grounds of statehood I must add) rather than produce encyclopedic information. I attempted to clean it up but was forced to abandon the task before any revision was saved as I found it impossible as doing so would have removed more than four fifths of the text. Compare the look of the article as it stands today to Cultural heritage of Serbia and Cultural Heritage of Andorra. Zavtek (talk) 15:03, 12 November 2013 (UTC) Blocked sock:Evlekis.
 * Keep and remove copyvios or delete if no one has the time to plow through it and check for copyvios.'For consistency with other "Cultural heritage of .. " articles, I moved it to the new title Cultural heritage of Kosovo. Cultural heritage of various nations is recognized by UNESCO as being both tangible and intangible, and Kosovo is rich in both, with a cultural history dating back to a kingdom before it became part of the Roman Empire, the Byzantine Empire, and later the Ottoman Empire. It was the cultural heartland of Serbia and the Battle of Kosovo was important in world history. Its tangible cultural legacy includes at least castles, monasteries, archeological sites and battlefields, and it has historical museums.It includes UNESCO World Heritage sites. It has proclaimed its independence and is under UN control, although Serbia asserts it is still part of Serbia.  Its cultural heritage is as encyclopedic and notable as that of other countries with articles about their cultural heritage or their National Register. The nominator says it sounds like a travel brochure or in-flight magazine, but no copyright violation has been identified. If it had been, then stubbing rather than deletion would be the appropriate remedy. Without a copyvio identified, then editing to make the tone more encyclopedic is the appropriate outcome.  The article could have been edited or tagged for someone else to edit it. Edison (talk) 16:08, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment The internet archive holds a page from the Kosovo Government from June 2012 which included some of the content placed in this article when it was created in Feb 2013. Some other websites with the same text may have copied the Wikipedia version and thus not be copyvio problems. Timing of when material appeared on the web is crucial. So copied text should be stubbed, or deleted for later recreation.I have removed phrases I found in the earlier Kosovan website. Others may check the remaining text to see if it appeared earlier in print or at some website which does not allow free use consistent with our licensing requirements. The text removed from the lede should be restored in a non-copyvio fashion, with proper attribution. Edison (talk) 16:37, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Kosovo-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:55, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment I found additional sections where text was copied with little or no change from a pre-existing site, and I removed some more of it. The authors of the article often cited the copy-paste copyright violations, but that does not make it acceptable under our copyright policy. The entire article needs to be checked and copyvios removed, or stubbed, or deleted, to comply with WP:COPYVIO. The numerous plagiarized sources are, sadly, evidence of the notability of the subject. I do not have any more time to devote to finding/removing copyvios at this time. It is hard to find any text which is original and not just copy-pasted even if the source is acknowledged. Added: It has been asserted on the article's talk page that Kosovan government sources are open licensed, but I saw no such declaration of the pages I checked, and that would not address things copied from other websites and from blogs or publications. Copy-paste from open licensed sourced without indicating it is a quote seems problematic. Edison (talk) 17:39, 12 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty (talk) 11:30, 22 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep. It's certainly notable. If some of the content is copyvio, remove that content. bobrayner (talk) 13:37, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment: This AfD was started by a sockpuppet; perhaps an uninvolved editor would like to close it accordingly. bobrayner (talk) 16:10, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep Notable subject even if a lot of it has been copied and pasted. I might reword and reference some of it when I get some spare time. IJA (talk) 16:57, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.