Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cultural production and nationalism


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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 10:24, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Cultural production and nationalism

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This unsourced (except for one dictionary definition) essay has been around since 2001, some of the text remaining from that earliest version (eg "This relationship between ideology and serious work is particularly ambiguous in the academic fields of historical importance. Much as 19th century science is often treated as the inventor of illegitimate racist conceptions of evolution and anthropology, many 19th century historians pursued what they intended as reasonably objective research projects in the history of their own and other regions either to end by themselves using the results to support nationalistic goals or to see their work used that way by others"). It came to my attention because it was recently tagged as a Stub, which I don't reckon it is, but it doesn't seem a useful addition to the encyclopedia. Pam D  08:45, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Arts-related deletion discussions.  Pam  D  08:45, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions.  Pam  D  08:45, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
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 * Comment I found this article that says in the abstract Although cultural and political nationalism have often been treated as separate, recent studies argue that they are linked because the state produces policies such as promotion of cultural heritage to further nation building.Nationalism and Cultural Production in Iran, 1848-1906 (thesis), Contemporary Re-Emergence of the Qipao: Political Nationalism, Cultural Production and Popular Consumption of a Traditional Chinese Dress, Nationalism and Cultural Practice in the Postcolonial World. There are likely others, see this search. However, I'm not convinced that these articles clearly define "Cultural production and nationalism" as a topic, a google search for the exact term returns mostly passing mentions. The topic currently seems to be better covered in Romantic nationalism (homogenous culture allows nationalism to develop) and Cultural nationalism (which has almost as many problems as this article). The article is currently an essay and there's almost nothing worth keeping even if it was a more clearly defined and analyzed topic. I'm currently leaning towards a delete and redirect to cultural nationalism, but will think on the matter a bit further before voting. Best, Eddie891 Talk Work 11:57, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete under G1, patent nonsense category, academic gas subdivision. The title stakes out an academic territory so broad it's unworkable.  In an article with one lousy source -- which is itself a definition of "cultural production" -- there's not one sentence that's clearly stated with a sensible provable meaning.  We might as well be playing Mad-Libs.  --Lockley (talk) 05:13, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete -- I regard Cultural production as an obscure academic term, whose meaning I do not know, though the sources others have found show this is not quite a neologism. If we are to have an article on this subject, we first need a good article on Cultural production, before we can even think of having one on its interaction with nationalism.  The present article is a very bad ESSAY.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:00, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. The content in question can be essentially covered elsewhere if needed. desmay (talk) 09:25, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete There's nothing worth keeping in the article and the topic isn't clearly defined in enough secondary sourcing to merit its own article. A redirect doesn't particularly make sense because this topic seems to be an unsourced essay with possible original research mixed in, and there isn't a great target. Eddie891 Talk Work 13:01, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:SYNTH and WP:LIST. It's just a random collection of ... what? Bearian (talk) 22:18, 9 July 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.