Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Curling at the 2022 Winter Olympics – Qualification


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Overwhelming consensus is that WP:CRYSTAL does not apply to Olympic events in this close proximity to the qualifying trials. (non-admin closure) 4meter4 (talk) 18:24, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Curling at the 2022 Winter Olympics – Qualification

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Its way too early for this article. The qualification system has not even been published yet. Per WP:CRYSTALBALL this article should be deleted. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 04:11, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 05:05, 20 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep Even though it is very early, deleting it would cause someone to rewrite it. I would propose adding a hatnote template. The Olympics are explicitly listed as an exception on WP:CRYSTALBALL. Initramfs (talk) 13:46, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, but the information on the page is all guesswork as nothing has been confirmed. Normally I would just redirect to the sport's page, but in this case that does not even exist, which should also demonstrate its too early for this article. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 14:02, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
 * It is not guesswork at all, it is sourced. The page has amendments here, and the changes are demonstrated in the updated rule book here (page 48-9).  That is not to say that there is still not issues, buy argue using the facts.18abruce (talk) 15:28, 20 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep Actually the qualification system was put forth at the recent congress and approved, as the sources on the page indicate. However, the point system for Olympic qualification has not been published yet.  So the stages of qualification, and which tournaments matter, are known, but as the page indicates it is not the complete picture yet.  I do not think that reflects the issue of CRYSTALBALL but it would not trouble me to have the page recreated when the imminent announcement is actually made.18abruce (talk) 14:23, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Move to draft, as per Draft:2022 in film. bd2412  T 22:31, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep When I created the page I was under the assumption that the rules for qualifying for 2022 would be the same for 2014 and 2018, which meant that the qualification period for 2014 started in 2010, and the qualification period for 2018 started in 2014, but with the rule changes for 2022 the first matches that would matter are 2020, which means the first qualifying point matches for this olympics are in March 2020 which is less than a half year away. And the qualification for the 2020 World Championships start in less than month, November 2019 (Pacific-Asia Curling Championship, European Curling Championships, World Mixed Doubles Qualification Event). Also, this page includes references to the Olympics expanding the number of Mixed Doubles teams participating in the Olympics from 8 to 10. Edwyth (talk) 23:09, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep If the qualification tournaments have been announced, and county towards the Olympics, then this is a keep per WP:CRYSTAL.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 16:28, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep Contrary to nom's assertinon, the qualification system has been released. As such, no valid reason has been given for deletion and I suggest withdrawal. Smartyllama (talk) 20:44, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Can you link to the official qualification system that has been published by the WCF and the IOC? You won't be able too, because it doesn't exist. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 21:50, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Now come on sportsfan, the article clearly links an official WCF document that details how many teams qualify, how the qualification tournaments will work, who is eligible to play in them, and which tournaments count for automatic qualification. What is does not do is detail how (and if) the Olympic Qualification Points will change in this Olympic cycle for automatic qualification.  It is true that there is no announcement yet of whether or not the IOC has approved the process, there needs to be some strong argument here as to why that on its own would be enough to delete the article.18abruce (talk) 23:06, 22 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep, obviously. -- Earl Andrew - talk 02:56, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - longstanding precedents exist for keeping such articles. Bearian (talk) 18:52, 26 October 2019 (UTC)


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