Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Curse of Cain/LDS historical statements


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was delete, and copyvio from many places:Journal of Discourses, http://www.lds-mormon.com/racism.shtml, http://www.angelfire.com/mo2/blackmormon/q45.htm etc. -- ( drini's page   &#x260E;  ) 02:01, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Curse of Cain/LDS historical statements

 * Delete this is source material, not an encyclopedia article. --&#123;&#123;subst:user&#124;4836.03}} 15:05, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete as per above. I hope someone didn't type all that out just for WP.  It's a little...excessive. --Several Times 17:58, 27 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep - the article these support is already too long to provide more quotes and source material within the article proper. Because there is so much debate on this particular topic, it is helpful to have as many available sources as possible readily available for readers to see and to make their own judgements. It helps with wiki civility - and it serves the purpose of Wikipedia to educate. Perhaps it could be cleaned up, but it is helpful and should have been merged with the recently deleted Official Statements of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. In both cases, the information needs to be kept, but perhaps in another format. -Visorstuff 19:14, 27 April 2006 (UTC) Can see the point about text per RGTraynor below. Changing vote to abstain, but would like to see more comments prior to deletion - and will gladly delete the article myself after more votes. -Visorstuff 20:15, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete as cruft -- we don't need a great whopping series of excerpts on Wikipedia just to flog race hatred; I'm sure one can link to all of those charming essays elsewhere, if citations to the same in Wikipedia articles are needful. I don't see any more need for it all to be on Wikipedia just for reason of education any more than articles on Biblical exigesis need to replicate the Bible.  RGTraynor 19:31, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete religioncruft. Danny Lilithborne 22:05, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per RGTraynor --Ajdz 05:40, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Clean Up (radically), then keep -- this chronicles a different version to the mainstream Curse of Cain, and ought to be in an encyclopaedia. -- Simon Cursitor
 * Delete. The material itself is good, and should be incorporated into a proper article (I'm not sure which one), but this article itself should be deleted. As a temporary solution, it could be moved to a talk page. CO GDEN  20:37, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep it needs a clean up and editing not deletion. A discussion of its relevance may aid editors in their views. As best I understand it, the LDS had an affirmative policy of debarring non-whites from the ministry (which is otherwise incumbent on LDS males aged 18 or so).  The teachings that led to this discrimination are what this article discusses. As the basis of racism, these teachings deserve to be analyzed and discussed; however, the material itself needs to be available to the searcher to understand the phenomenon. Carlossuarez46 23:11, 30 April 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.