Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Curtis Payne (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. SarahStierch (talk) 07:20, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Curtis Payne
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Non-notable fictional character. There are no independent reliable sources that establish that this fictional character is notable separately from the fiction in which he appeared. Fails WP:GNG and WP:FICT. Some of the material may also constitute original research. Article was nominated once previously and kept on the basis of its being from a notable series and the actor winning an award for playing it. However, the notability of the series is WP:NOTINHERITED by the characters within it and the award attests to the notability of the actor, not the character. Jerry Pepsi (talk) 03:05, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 03:37, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 03:37, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
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 * Delete - Very little of the text of the article is supported by the sources, and none of these appear to be independent or reliable. &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 03:40, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep - It's not a very good article as written, but a google books search provides numerous references to, and analysis of, the character. A simple database search brought up reviews of the program from USA Today, Washington Post, Los Angeles Times, etc, all of which give significant ink to discussing this character. I think this article could be improved greatly, but it need not be deleted. Cheers, AstroCog (talk) 21:49, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Those books appear, when not about a real person named Curtis Payne, to attest to the show's existence and by extension the character's but don't appear to contain the sort of out-of-universe perspective required when writing about a fictional subject. Jerry Pepsi (talk) 22:51, 12 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete or redirect to the show's article. Ugh, I hate fictional character articles that don't even try to establish notability.  Taylor Trescott  - my talk + my edits 00:58, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. Only thing with a notable mention is LaVan Davis's Image Award, and that belongs on the main page and his page. —  Wylie pedia  05:30, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, SarahStierch (talk) 19:11, 22 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete - The actor winning an award for the portrayal would be something to add alongside information pertaining to the character's notability, not something to hold up the article itself. Without other sources, this doesn't need to exist. TTN (talk) 19:12, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.